You could be correct White Chocolate, I accept that I'm probably biased and suffering from "homerism." Still, the question remains: who could we plausibly get that improves on Gobert? What team would take his contract and give us a better return? Those types of questions are tough to answer.
It’s not happening guys. Dennis said Rudy is the best ever during the interview today, and we can’t trade him until October anyway, so he’s not going anywhere. We can end this thread.
Depends what you get in return, the main thing that move does is reset our timeline and (hopefully) restock the asset cupboard a little bit. Might be correct given Bojan, Ingles, Conley all likely have their best ball behind them.
Pass.
Collins has been horrible in the playoffs.
Maybe it has more to do with our cupboard filled of bad defenders. Royce is are best perimeter defender and he is overrated somewhat. The rest of the guys are below average. DM can play defense when he wants but his responsibilities have led to him half way trying on defense. I saw his potential in game 7 against Murray where he shut him down but he had nothing left on offense. DM couldn't guard a flagpole with his ankle. The biggest problem is at almost every position except center the Jazz have either less size or less athleticism than their opponent. I also have witnessed our soft mentally when it comes to defense. The Jazz need a few alpha dogs on defense.
If Simmons came to Utah, I would stop being a Jazz fan. I have been one for 42 years. That guy is afraid to shoot a jump shot and cannot make free throws besides all the whining about not being selected for DPOY and dissing DM about ROY. Cannot stand the guy.
Jazz need some bench players. Ingles and O'Neal should be coming off the bench. Please let Niang walk.
If you look at DM percentages they have improved every year. The problem is we have no other player besides maybe Bogie who can get his shot off under pressure. I am sure DM would love it if other guys could step up. DM had 9 assists in game six. The reason why those teams let DM go off is because they couldn't stop him so they make sure no one else goes off. If you want to complain about a guy who shoots too much than I suggest JC as that player. All those players you mentioned were on bad teams and lacked other scorers. So I agree that if the Jazz do not make changes then they will be in the same place but not because of DM shooting shots but because they didn't get him any help. Championship teams have multiple guys who can score on their own.
I had wanted the Jazz to get Brogdan before they signed Conley. I agree getting Brogdan and Turner for Rudy, and not resigning Mike would be the ticket we need, and also provide some cash to look for some 3 and D players. We also need to unload some of our bench guys who did not and will not ever contribute. There are some other issues, however. For example, why did the Jazz release Jeff Green? As we saw in the playoffs, he played very well and could've been a big contributor for our playoff run. The reason why he left could be a reason why we are having trouble getting free agents and why Mike now seems wishy-washy about staying. And also why there were rumblings about DM remaining, which I think have been put to rest by getting DWade involved. The culture of Utah is different from any place that I have ever lived and the whiteness of the society here may make NBA players reluctant to come here.
Jeff Green wanted out. No one knows if it was basketball related or cultural related. Green had some very good games in the playoffs but he had some real stinkers and for that reason Green has been a journeyman in the NBA. Mike also said he loved being with the team and in Utah. He is a free agent. He wants to test the market. If he says I want to be in Utah but the FO doesn't sign him or give him the money then he is sitting out in the wind with a possibility of no other options. It would be dumb to say I am staying with Utah without a deal already in place. Niang basically said the same thing Conley said when asked about his free agency.
Makes me want to puke and if this is truly the FO mentality then the Jazz will never be anything more than make the playoffs and lose in the first or second round team. If you goal is not to do whatever you can to get better than you are falling behind. I am so depressed about this mentality of our FO. I am still puking thinking about it.
