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DL and Quin Snyder Rift

Handlogten's Heros said:
Sounds like DL went rogue on his scouting staff as well... he was basically on an island with Udoka and said "**** yall Imma do me!"
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Dude he’s a professional. Professionals done make mistakes. They possess magic abilities that allow them to see into the ultraviolet and infrared parts of the electromagnetic spectrum and see what others can’t see.
 
Coaches play the guys who will win them games. Their jobs depend on it. GMs want the players they've scouted and signed to play. I'm guessing this dynamic is very common. It sounds like this relationship went beyond that, when they weren't talking directly to each other for two years. Too bad this didn't blow up a year earlier.
 
The GM/coach dynamic is interesting and probably why high profile coaches want GM power as well. Also interesting that coaches rarely do a good job at both jobs.
 
Jingled said:
I honestly didn't put much stock into the rumors that Quin and DL didn't get along but it looks like there turned out to be a lot of truth to it. Great reporting from Andy and Eric.
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My spidey senses tingled when the Mike Conley benching/unbenching happened. It was clear as ****ing day that DL came down and told Quin he wasn't benching Mike... Let Quin handle all the questions after and was nowhere to be found per usual.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It's still kind of weird to me that Quin really likes Clarkson despite hating Burks.

I think there are some traits that just drive Snyder crazy.
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This has always puzzled me as well. The two players are very similar in a lot of ways yet AB had a very short leash and Clarkson has one of the greenest lights of any role player in the entire NBA. Kind of strange.
 
Jingled said:
This has always puzzled me as well. The two players are very similar in a lot of ways yet AB had a very short leash and Clarkson has one of the greenest lights of any role player in the entire NBA. Kind of strange.
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Felt like there was a similar dynamic with Jonas Jerebko and Niang. Quin will ride or die with Niang and Jonas seemed to get yanked around.

You know that DL is still fuming over his treatment of Exum. I think Dante sucked... so Quin was right. I think DL will end up signing him at his next stop as his first order of business.
 
Funny how literally 99% of posters on here were furious about the Udoka pick. Sometimes things are that ****ing obvious and somehow DL still managed to do it. Trading a 2nd for Matt Thomas and then saying Oni could be one of the best wing defenders in the league is lol. Dude really didn’t have to do this to us on his way out. He can **** off.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Felt like there was a similar dynamic with Jonas Jerebko and Niang. Quin will ride or die with Niang and Jonas seemed to get yanked around.

You know that DL is still fuming over his treatment of Exum. I think Dante sucked... so Quin was right. I think DL will end up signing him at his next stop as his first order of business.
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He'll pull a Kawhi at his next stop and demand Exum come as his PG.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Felt like there was a similar dynamic with Jonas Jerebko and Niang. Quin will ride or die with Niang and Jonas seemed to get yanked around.

You know that DL is still fuming over his treatment of Exum. I think Dante sucked... so Quin was right. I think DL will end up signing him at his next stop as his first order of business.
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I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Exum was the biggest cause of the strain in their relationship. DL just couldn't give up on him even with all the injuries and poor play. He must've been furious that he was outside of Quins rotation those last couple of seasons he was on the Jazz.
 
I'm glad we're getting some reporting on this. It gives a small amount of relief in that if you can diagnose something wrong, there is a chance to fix it. The worst problems are the ones with no apparent cause or repair.
 
vegas said:
I'm glad we're getting some reporting on this. It gives a small amount of relief in that if you can diagnose something wrong, there is a chance to fix it. The worst problems are the ones with no apparent cause or repair.
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When **** goes sideways people start to talk... it’s nice to get a little more than just the basic lip service.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
When **** goes sideways people start to talk... it’s nice to get a little more than just the basic lip service.
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There's part of it that's annoying, too. From both fans and media. Certain fans and media would reflect "lol, there's not evidence of tension, that's silly and paranoid, everything is good," and then when stuff hits the fan, those same people are like "well yeah of course, this kinda stuff happens. You shouldn't be surprised." They just don't seem to accept that answer until it's apparently safe to say so and you're no longer an idiot for saying it.
 
Well, I kinda agree with Quin. DL’s guys kinda sucked, so why give them minutes? I get the sense Quin would play young guys if they were actually good and had great potential.

This development doesn’t bode well for a lot of the end of roster guys hoping to stick on the roster, IMO. With DL gone, and Quin getting his way, I could see a lot of them not being back.
 
infection said:
There's part of it that's annoying, too. From both fans and media. Certain fans and media would reflect "lol, there's not evidence of tension, that's silly and paranoid, everything is good," and then when stuff hits the fan, those same people are like "well yeah of course, this kinda stuff happens. You shouldn't be surprised." They just don't seem to accept that answer until it's apparently safe to say so and you're no longer an idiot for saying it.
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Not just fans... Tony Jones kinda lol’d at the idea of Danny Ainge a couple weeks ago... and now he’s changed his tune.

Now some of the media are like “ yeah this isn’t surprising... he’s talked about doing this for years”. Okay well I’m fairly sure he was just asked to hit the exits... when you are an advisor with no decision making power you are basically neutered. It’s basically he still gets his checks but he’s on ice for this offseason.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yep, really explains Morgan/Brantley bring on the team two years in a row and never playing
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I thought Brantley was one of Zanik's guys. I think Zanik likes the big-body type. With Brantley, he'd already put up 19/8 in the G-league, and he didn't play with the Stars this year at all. He just sat around.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Not just fans... Tony Jones kinda lol’d at the idea of Danny Ainge a couple weeks ago... and now he’s changed his tune.

Now some of the media are like “ yeah this isn’t surprising... he’s talked about doing this for years”. Okay well I’m fairly sure he was just asked to hit the exits... when you are an advisor with no decision making power you are basically neutered. It’s basically he still gets his checks but he’s on ice for this offseason.
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Hah. Anyone who buys this nonsense of a guy early-to-mid prime deciding to "slow down." Yeah, he's thought about stepping away. I'm sure every single executive has thoughts of stepping away. Hell, every day I have thoughts of quitting my job, as I'm sure most of you do. They're not thoughts you're entertaining or thinking of acting on, but they are legitimately thoughts. Of course he can say that and it be true, but also completely false at the same time.
 
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