I found that part really funny. Like why would a team just going to give us a significant upgrade for Bogey or Ingles? What's in it for them?
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I found that part really funny. Like why would a team just going to give us a significant upgrade for Bogey or Ingles? What's in it for them?
Keefe
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Fit, need, and contracts. Would Bojan and Ingles help the Sixers more than Tobias Harris? And vice versa…not saying they do or they don’t. But that’s why.
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It would honestly have to be something where it was an injury and Joe was going to be done... then you use him as an expiring contract.
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Not that you are saying this but I think Harris might be a downgrade from Bojan... and I like Harris. That's why its hard to see a deal that makes sense... like if Portland says we will do Dame and we want Bojan and Ingles... great... let's do it. I just don't see any good deal that is out there with Joe. I could see Indiana saying they'd do Brogdon for Bojan and us liking that deal if Conley bails.
I think the FO may throw stuff out there to see what gets offered but I doubt someone wants to give us 1.25 on the dollar for Bogey or Joe.
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That’s one offer that makes some sense. I think I’d prefer Rozier for Bogey and I think that makes more sense for the teams involved. I’m sure there’s another team or two where he could be traded as well.
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I'd only do that deal if we lost Mike or had a great home for JC lined up. I don't think Terry would want to come off the bench. I can see a decent trade for Bogey being out there... what I don't see is the trade where we move both of them and get something that is a "significant upgrade".
There is a case that maybe Tobias is that, but I think he's just a guy you always want to give you more or gets a little overrated because of his numbers. I think when he was a FA you could make the case that he has more creation value... but its hard to make that case now. I like him as a player but don't think Bojan+Joe for Tobias makes us better at all.
I think stepping in front of a bus comes before joining a Lakers forum.
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No doubt about it being only if Mike is gone. Which I think he will be. I think Tony Jones’s “running it back” is very wishful thinking. Or that we stupidly pay Mike something like 3/80M, dump Favors and try to move Bogey for a lesser player (and salary), thus clearly NOT truly running it back.
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I think we could consider starting Mike, Don, Terry, Royce and Rudy and switch it up at the first TV timeout. Bring in Joe for one of them.
The NBA keeps getting smaller and smaller, and we would still have the big man in the middle. Mike, Don, and Terry would be a nightmare to defend if they are all driving, cutting, dishing, running the PnR. It would be a playoff lineup for sure.
I do agree that Clarkson would have to be traded. Not much sense having Mike, Terry, Don and JC.
Jazz receive: Andrew Wiggins, Kevon Looney, #14
Warriors receive: Bojan Bogdanovic, Joe Ingles, Derrick Favors
Draft Moses Moody at #14 and JT Thor at #30
Re-sign Mike Conley
Sign Nic Batum using our MLE
Sign Kris Dunn and Justise Winslow to minimum deals
PG - Mike Conley | Kris Dunn
SG - Donovan Mitchell | Moses Moody
SF - Andrew Wiggins | Nic Batum
PF - Royce O'Neale | JT Thor
C - Rudy Gobert | Kevon Looney
Warriors receive: Bojan Bogdanovic, Joe Ingles, Derrick Favors
Draft Moses Moody at #14 and JT Thor at #30
Re-sign Mike Conley
Sign Nic Batum using our MLE
Sign Kris Dunn and Justise Winslow to minimum deals
PG - Mike Conley | Kris Dunn
SG - Donovan Mitchell | Moses Moody
SF - Andrew Wiggins | Nic Batum
PF - Royce O'Neale | JT Thor
C - Rudy Gobert | Kevon Looney
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The jazz rolling over for Mitchell and Wade is going have disaster written all over it. They will go get players they want and they will not make a finals and then Wade will see ownership Stake, Dom will ask for a trade and Jazz fans will be hurt and it going put us back. I never liked idea of Dom being The guy on a team. Volume scorers, and that what he is let's not lie to ourselves, like TmacCarmelo they don't make it out the first round often. Maybe Dom can least make it to round two but they will bring everyone in for them and when it doesn't work blame not being able to get talent and will request a trade. The way to build a team in small market is how Spurs, How Bucks now,Nuggets now are doing it. Get international players, they are way more loyal and then get under the radar guys who appreciate the chance to play like Middleton
And Jru are.
Building around a high volume scorer who is undersized at the 2 spot is not going be successful. We couldn't make it to WCF this year in an injury based western playoffs. They not going beat Lakers Suns Nuggets next year in playoffs. Those three are clear and shoulders better to win in playoffs. Clippers are going be back, Maverick are going be better , Memphis is on the rise . The future is Bleek for Jazz. You can say they had a great year this year and they did in regular season but then couldn't be a clippers team without Leonard and with Playoff P as their best player. Jazz are just not built to win when it counts. Building around Mitchell is going be a mistake down the line just wait and see. The only way it could change if Mitchell goes work with Stockton instead of wade and learns how to be a pg. Cuz now in fourth in playoffs last two years Nuggets and Clippers Dom was horrible in 4th. Gary Harris forced him into turnovers and then this year Lue sent double teams and he panic and turnover machine. I know it's not going be popular but I would flip Mitchell and build around international players and players who ha e ties to Utah. Utah is not like any other NBA team so they gotta do it differently
And Jru are.
Building around a high volume scorer who is undersized at the 2 spot is not going be successful. We couldn't make it to WCF this year in an injury based western playoffs. They not going beat Lakers Suns Nuggets next year in playoffs. Those three are clear and shoulders better to win in playoffs. Clippers are going be back, Maverick are going be better , Memphis is on the rise . The future is Bleek for Jazz. You can say they had a great year this year and they did in regular season but then couldn't be a clippers team without Leonard and with Playoff P as their best player. Jazz are just not built to win when it counts. Building around Mitchell is going be a mistake down the line just wait and see. The only way it could change if Mitchell goes work with Stockton instead of wade and learns how to be a pg. Cuz now in fourth in playoffs last two years Nuggets and Clippers Dom was horrible in 4th. Gary Harris forced him into turnovers and then this year Lue sent double teams and he panic and turnover machine. I know it's not going be popular but I would flip Mitchell and build around international players and players who ha e ties to Utah. Utah is not like any other NBA team so they gotta do it differently
Keefe
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He appears to be a volume shooter but his efficiency has improved every year despite more usage. In other words, he might continue to improve a little more and not be simply, some pure volume guy.
2 of our best 3 players were also injured. Cannot discount this fact.
Clarkson?
This take has me sporting a blue veined 4 inch diamond cutter
Keefe
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That what you call your ****?
NAOS
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Sorry, I meant to say Elizah Huge. Hope that helps you.
Keefe
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Why is this exactly? I know one or two of his sons have a certain condition.