Coronavirus

[TheGoldStandard]

I thought moving indoors increased infection rates. Someone comes home with covid and infects the household because everyone is indoors together for long periods of time.

On another note, beware RAS.

COVID may cause 'restless anal syndrome' - report

A patient in Japan seems to have developed the condition due to COVID-19, according to initial findings.

www.jpost.com

Correct. I stated that moving indoors could put a lull in the decline.

Moving indoors could cause more infection, which could offset or slow the current decline.

My 8 yr old has now recovered and is back in school. We didn't have her isolate as she is young, so we were all exposed. Thankfully the rest of us, including my 1 yr old, have tested negative so far. My 1 yr old has to isolate for a total of 24 days, so it had put our work schedules in flux until we can get her back in daycare. I can work from home, but not with a 1 year old running around.

We are still seeing a ton of cases in our schools, and it appears my child's teacher (older in not great shape) either has it or is in quarantine.

 

[BabyPeterzz]

How do you parents feel about vaccinating kids?

We’re forgetting that we have no idea how COVID will effect kids long term. Parents will have to gamble on a vaccine proven to reduce infection, symptoms, hospitalization and death or a virus ripping through the whole planet with still very little known about long term effects.

Personally, I bet on the best scientific experts to keep me safe. But I don’t have kids. If I did I’d get them vaxxed immediately and know I did everything I could to keep them safe. I would not bet on COVID to do that.

Hopefully a variant that kills kids is not necessary for people to start betting on human innovation instead of a still unknown deadly virus.


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[fishonjazz]

From a poster on cougarboard:
UPDATE: No peak yet. ~40 patients have died in the last 3 weeks. I watched a
36 year-old die after we extubated her the other day. Her 13 year old daughter laid on top of her, wailing, begging her mom not to go. The nurses, all of us, were bawling. I’m still in the ICU intubating people as a last resort. They’re dying and they have no other choice left. It’s the worst talking to those patients and families about the very dire situation they find themselves in, stuck between dying within hours or a 22% chance of coming off the ventilator after a week or two; 78% will die. Yesterday, a whole family, including kids were there for my apologies and explanation of of what would and might happen next. It’s awful to see their faces; It very difficult to maintain eye-contact and deliver such sobering news. I’ve been doing this for about 3 weeks now. Usually I’m in the OR doing anesthesia but all the ORs, procedure rooms, and surgery centers are shut down; We need all the nurses and staff on the floors to care for the massive surge of COVID patients. Most ICU nurses are working 5-6 12-hour shifts (60-72 hours) to make sure someone is there to care for these folks. In these three weeks, we’ve had around 40 patients die, maybe more. One of those was vaccinated, a very obese diabetic lady that had fibrotic lungs and was on a oxygen before she came to the hospital. The rest of the deaths chose to skip the vaccine. About half of those intubated are in thier 40s and 50s right now, a big change from last years older people. We hit the record number of ventilated patients yesterday, 18 in our middle-sized hospital. We had 226 patients total admitted and we’re a 180-220 patient hospital. Patients are stowed away in areas formerly used as recovery rooms and waiting areas. Some days Boise, Pocatello, Idaho Falls or Salt Lake has an ICU bed free and we can ship there. Other days we have to find room and the patient just won’t get the best care (Crisis standards have been declared in Idaho). We’re at a record 18 ventilated patients as of yesterday. We only have 20. Luckily, everyday we have a handful of folks come off the ventilators (only 2/3s are dead) and then more go on them. Dozens of patients are teetering; maybe they’ll get better or maybe they’ll need a ventilator. Time will tell. Somedays we have run out of room in the morgue. There’s only a few slots. It’s not normal to have this many deaths at a hospital. I’m getting numb. It doesn’t hurt as bad as it did at first, settling in. Hoping this will pass in the next few weeks and I can go back to getting folks to sleep for Carpal Tunnels and colonoscopies.

So hug a nurse, pray for all the patients and families, and do what you can to take good care of yourself and your loved ones.

 

[TheGoldStandard]

How do you parents feel about vaccinating kids?

We’re forgetting that we have no idea how COVID will effect kids long term. Parents will have to gamble on a vaccine proven to reduce infection, symptoms, hospitalization and death or a virus ripping through the whole planet with still very little known about long term effects.

Personally, I bet on the best scientific experts to keep me safe. But I don’t have kids. If I did I’d get them vaxxed immediately and know I did everything I could to keep them safe. I would not bet on COVID to do that.

Hopefully a variant that kills kids is not necessary for people to start betting on human innovation instead of a still unknown deadly virus.


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We are getting both of our kids, including our 8 year old who just recovered, as soon as possible. Because despite what a few other posters are alluding to, we are seeing the otherwise healthy kids in the hospital with Covid and MIS-C. Our children's hospital has 20 current children admitted, with half being healthy otherwise. The risk appears to be lesser than adults, but getting any extra protection, especially after studies are showing that a much lower does for kids is effective with very few side effects, it seems like the best choice.

Also, for anyone with kids that have Covid, keep a very close eye on them for stomach pain, fever, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, rash, lethargy, fast heartbeat or breathing, any swelling in lymph nodes, tongue or extremities, as they are signs of MIS-C, which can be deadly if not timely treated. Adults are now starting to get what is called MIS-A (A for adult), but it is more rare. Doctors have seen it a number of times with kids that have had Covid. For example, in North Texas, over 231 cases of MIS-C had been diagnosed. So it is somewhat common.

Merck is also reporting a newly developed pill "Molnupiravir" which reduces hospitalization risk and death by half for patients with mild to moderate cases of Covid. It would be the first antiviral taken orally for Covid. They are seeking EA to begin distributing it.

 

[fishonjazz]

I have a very good friend who is currently in the hospital (has been for a few days now) with covid pneumonia and is quite sick. Her husband and one of her kids also have covid but they aren't hospitalized. Her parents both have covid and her mom is in the hospital.
Couple of texts from her to my wife. Seems like she will be ok?

 

[Avery]

From a poster on cougarboard:
UPDATE: No peak yet. ~40 patients have died in the last 3 weeks. I watched a
36 year-old die after we extubated her the other day. Her 13 year old daughter laid on top of her, wailing, begging her mom not to go. The nurses, all of us, were bawling. I’m still in the ICU intubating people as a last resort. They’re dying and they have no other choice left. It’s the worst talking to those patients and families about the very dire situation they find themselves in, stuck between dying within hours or a 22% chance of coming off the ventilator after a week or two; 78% will die. Yesterday, a whole family, including kids were there for my apologies and explanation of of what would and might happen next. It’s awful to see their faces; It very difficult to maintain eye-contact and deliver such sobering news. I’ve been doing this for about 3 weeks now. Usually I’m in the OR doing anesthesia but all the ORs, procedure rooms, and surgery centers are shut down; We need all the nurses and staff on the floors to care for the massive surge of COVID patients. Most ICU nurses are working 5-6 12-hour shifts (60-72 hours) to make sure someone is there to care for these folks. In these three weeks, we’ve had around 40 patients die, maybe more. One of those was vaccinated, a very obese diabetic lady that had fibrotic lungs and was on a oxygen before she came to the hospital. The rest of the deaths chose to skip the vaccine. About half of those intubated are in thier 40s and 50s right now, a big change from last years older people. We hit the record number of ventilated patients yesterday, 18 in our middle-sized hospital. We had 226 patients total admitted and we’re a 180-220 patient hospital. Patients are stowed away in areas formerly used as recovery rooms and waiting areas. Some days Boise, Pocatello, Idaho Falls or Salt Lake has an ICU bed free and we can ship there. Other days we have to find room and the patient just won’t get the best care (Crisis standards have been declared in Idaho). We’re at a record 18 ventilated patients as of yesterday. We only have 20. Luckily, everyday we have a handful of folks come off the ventilators (only 2/3s are dead) and then more go on them. Dozens of patients are teetering; maybe they’ll get better or maybe they’ll need a ventilator. Time will tell. Somedays we have run out of room in the morgue. There’s only a few slots. It’s not normal to have this many deaths at a hospital. I’m getting numb. It doesn’t hurt as bad as it did at first, settling in. Hoping this will pass in the next few weeks and I can go back to getting folks to sleep for Carpal Tunnels and colonoscopies.

So hug a nurse, pray for all the patients and families, and do what you can to take good care of yourself and your loved ones.

A good and sobering post.

I don't know why we should be surprised that medical professionals are quitting due to burnout. Imagine going to work everyday for long periods knowing you have to see every emotion, every heartache, sometimes triumphs and finding the courage to do it all again and again. Makes us keyboard office warriors realize that what we do is pretty miniscule in the grand scheme of things when we complain about our VPN's being down and the soda machine not working.

Medical workers deserve combat pay on everything they've done for us the past 18 months - they legitimately should have received six-figure bonuses when we were handing out money left and right to people who didn't really need it.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

How do you parents feel about vaccinating kids?

This is a tough one in our house. My kid is 8, so he doesn't have to get the vaccine yet but we know it is coming. The moment it is approved for his age group the school will mandate it. In the data I've seen so far, I'm okay with the reduced dosage Pfizer vaccine but I'm not entrusted with making those decisions. My wife has absolute say over it. She is against getting our kid the mRNA vaccine, and seemingly more strongly entrenched every day.

Keep in mind that my wife is an expert. She is a scientist who works with DNA for a government agency. She knows the PCR testing they do to detect COVID so well that back in university she did the PCR amplification by hand moving a sample in and out of an ice-filled cooler. She is part of an auditing team that certifies other labs and is recognized as an expert witness in her field by the state.

My wife is not anti-vax, and in fact was the first member of our family to get vaccinated. She has deep concerns over the myocarditis statistics for children in my son's age range versus the statistics of lasting negative effects from COVID infection for children in my son's age range. Her concerns are extremely informed and specific, and she's a scientist and the Mom. I'm only an engineer and the Dad. I know enough to know I'm not winning this one. I really need more and better data to come out before the mandates come down or we might be moving to another state.

 

[fishonjazz]

I have a very good friend who is currently in the hospital (has been for a few days now) with covid pneumonia and is quite sick. Her husband and one of her kids also have covid but they aren't hospitalized. Her parents both have covid and her mom is in the hospital.
Couple of texts from her to my wife. Seems like she will be ok?

Just got an update this morning.
Taken a small turn for the worse. Isn't going to be able to go home yet as her oxygen went much lower. They also increased her oxygen a bunch (doubled it).
I'm getting scared at this point.

 

[TheGoldStandard]

This is a tough one in our house. My kid is 8, so he doesn't have to get the vaccine yet but we know it is coming. The moment it is approved for his age group the school will mandate it. In the data I've seen so far, I'm okay with the reduced dosage Pfizer vaccine but I'm not entrusted with making those decisions. My wife has absolute say over it. She is against getting our kid the mRNA vaccine, and seemingly more strongly entrenched every day.

Keep in mind that my wife is an expert. She is a scientist who works with DNA for a government agency. She knows the PCR testing they do to detect COVID so well that back in university she did the PCR amplification by hand moving a sample in and out of an ice-filled cooler. She is part of an auditing team that certifies other labs and is recognized as an expert witness in her field by the state.

My wife is not anti-vax, and in fact was the first member of our family to get vaccinated. She has deep concerns over the myocarditis statistics for children in my son's age range versus the statistics of lasting negative effects from COVID infection for children in my son's age range. Her concerns are extremely informed and specific, and she's a scientist and the Mom. I'm only an engineer and the Dad. I know enough to know I'm not winning this one. I really need more and better data to come out before the mandates come down or we might be moving to another state.

I haven't seen statistics on Myocarditis for 8 year olds, only 12-17 year olds, where the studies I saw (may be more current data) all show that all that had myocarditis from the vaccine recovered, with only one having lasting impact. Taking into account MIS-C, blood clotting risk, etc. Not to mention viruses, including COVID 19, are one of the most common causes for myocarditis. Since there is a high likelihood we will all get Covid at some point, it isn't a difficult decision for me as the Covid virus has higher risk of myocarditis. I'd prefer not to have my kid deal with either, but since the risk is there, I'll go with what has less likely risks.

I'd appreciate seeing statistics your wife is referring to, as I'm sure whatever I read was old, particularly if what you have applies to 8 year olds.

 

[fishonjazz]

Interesting article:

In Portugal, There Is Virtually No One Left to Vaccinate

Portugal’s health care system was on the verge of collapse. Hospitals in the capital, Lisbon, were overflowing and authorities were asking people to treat themselves at home. In the last week of January, nearly 2,000 people died as the virus spread. The country’s vaccine program was in a...

www.yahoo.com

About 98% of all of those eligible for vaccines — meaning anyone over 12 — have been fully vaccinated, Gouveia e Melo said.

On Friday, Portugal ended nearly all of its coronavirus restrictions. There has been a sharp drop in new cases, to about 650 a day, and vanishingly few deaths.

Before the pandemic, Portugal was fortunate to have a robust national vaccination program. It grew out of the country’s devastating experience battling polio, which was still affecting the country after Gouveia e Melo was born in 1960. He recalls when the daughter of a family friend fell ill from the disease and the suffering that followed.

Manuela Ivone da Cunha, a Portuguese anthropologist who has studied anti-vaccination movements, said that “vaccine doubters and anti-vaxxers are in the minority in Portugal, and they are also less vocal” than they are in many other countries.

Protesters were blocking the entrance to a vaccination center in Lisbon, so he donned his combat uniform and went there with no security detail.

“I went through these crazy people,” he said. “They started to call me ‘murderer, murderer.’”

As the television cameras rolled, the admiral calmly stood his ground.

“I said the murderer is the virus,” Gouveia e Melo recalled. The true killer, he said, would be people who live like it is the 13th century without any notion of reality.

"In the beginning, we had some 40% who were unsure,” Gouveia e Melo said. Now, according to polls, he said, only 2.2% do not want the vaccine.

I have always thought Portugal seemed like a cool place to live.

 

[fishonjazz]

Trump: 'I got the Pfizer'

Former President Donald Trump discusses the COVID-19 pandemic with Yahoo Finance's Adam Shapiro and reveals for the first time he got the Pfizer-Biontech vaccine.

finance.yahoo.com

"Well, I got the Pfizer and I would have been very happy with any of them," Trump told Yahoo Finance Live in a wide-ranging interview.

Well done Trump. And thats even after already having intibodies from being infected with covid.

 

[fishonjazz]

Is the Coronavirus Getting Better at Airborne Transmission?

Newer variants of the coronavirus such as alpha and delta are highly contagious, infecting far more people than the original virus. Two new studies offer a possible explanation: The virus is evolving to spread more efficiently through air. The realization that the coronavirus is airborne indoors...

www.yahoo.com

 

[TheGoldStandard]

Received my Pfizer booster on Saturday. Similar reactions from dose two earlier this year. Ached all over yesterday, but feel fine today. I got my flu shot at the same time (pharmacist required that I get one in each arm) so I had two sore arms yesterday.

Hopefully we can get back to normal after this winter.

 

[LogGrad98]

Received my Pfizer booster on Saturday. Similar reactions from dose two earlier this year. Ached all over yesterday, but feel fine today. I got my flu shot at the same time (pharmacist required that I get one in each arm) so I had two sore arms yesterday.

Hopefully we can get back to normal after this winter.

You just experienced the new normal my friend. Shots for everything.

 

[TheGoldStandard]

You just experienced the new normal my friend. Shots for everything.

Whiskey Kitchen in Nashville has 2 for 1 shots every Tuesday. Don't really remember much about those Tuesday nights, other than getting kicked out of a strip club by a meth head stripper, getting a stalker and some damn good chili dogs. Good times.

 

[Avery]

Received my Pfizer booster on Saturday. Similar reactions from dose two earlier this year. Ached all over yesterday, but feel fine today. I got my flu shot at the same time (pharmacist required that I get one in each arm) so I had two sore arms yesterday.

Hopefully we can get back to normal after this winter.

What superpower did you gain?

 

[TheGoldStandard]

What superpower did you gain?

How about the power to kill a yak from 200 yards away, with mind bullets!

 

[leftyjace]

I haven’t heard anything about mandating your booster be the same as your initial vaccine.
So… when I get my booster next month, I’ll be mix-and-matching Moderna to my original Pfizer.
I’ll let you guys know if I die.

 

[fishonjazz]

Whiskey Kitchen in Nashville has 2 for 1 shots every Tuesday. Don't really remember much about those Tuesday nights, other than getting kicked out of a strip club by a meth head stripper, getting a stalker and some damn good chili dogs. Good times.

Lol sounds like that place covered all their bases

 

[fishonjazz]

How about the power to kill a yak from 200 yards away, with mind bullets!

That should come in handy