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Avery said:
And WHO just ended their trial claiming it’s not effective.

Hard to justify if it’s working if everyone is getting different results. No easy answer unfortunately.
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this was a widely peer reviewed larger scale study published in the international journal of infectious diseases.

The WHO one ... not so much
 
Douchebag K said:
dude I’m technologically illiterate.

still think herd immunity is going to be the only way this thing drifts away unfortunately. Gonna be a long couple of years
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I'm tech illiterate too lol. No worries.

I still don't understand if or how herd immunity works. I mean the flu has been around for a long time and I have had it numerous times. I feel I herd immuned the **** out of the flu but alas, I can still get it I reckon.

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Avery said:
And WHO just ended their trial claiming it’s not effective.

Hard to justify if it’s working if everyone is getting different results. No easy answer unfortunately.
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I’ll post more on this later, but the bottom line is that every study is asking a different question. In society, we like simple answers, either something is good or bad. But I’ll post more on this later.
 
fishonjazz said:
I'm tech illiterate too lol. No worries.

I still don't understand if or how herd immunity works. I mean the flu has been around for a long time and I have had it numerous times. I feel I herd immuned the **** out of the flu but alas, I can still get it I reckon.

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Herd immunity is more of a theoretical concept. Influenza is a bad example because it is different strains every year.
 
infection said:
Herd immunity is more of a theoretical concept. Influenza is a bad example because it is different strains every year.
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That's true but you still have some level of defense against normal flu strands right? That's why the 1918 flu was so bad because it was a type that most people had not seen except older people. That's why it was one of the few times old people were less effected because their bodies could fight it better.
 
Long road back for some survivors. I don’t need to weigh mortality rates to convince me social distancing and face masks are the way I will go. Potential outcomes of this sort are plenty reason enough. Glad I’m living in a state where the governor is a highly intelligent woman and the citizens are acting responsibly, for the most part so far. I understand that can change, and our record in nursing homes is abysmal. Still, for time being, one of only two states where case numbers are falling. At the moment....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/09/coronavirus-ventilator-rehabilitation/

www.theguardian.com

The long road to recovery for Covid-19 patients

From muscle wastage to PTSD, patients discharged from critical care face tough convalescence
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

 
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One Brow said:
I don't know that anyone can give a precise number, but it's sure an odd coincidence that Florida is seeing record numbers of pneumonia deaths.

Historical data is here. I used the same ICD10 codes as the link below uses for "pneumonia".

Florida deaths from pneumonia for an entire year (2019 not available at this link).

Florida (12) 2013 2,504
Florida (12) 2014 2,508
Florida (12) 2015 2,543
Florida (12) 2016 2,637
Florida (12) 2017 2,800
Florida (12) 2018 2,623

Current data (five months's worth) is here:

Florida 7,093 (supposedly only 2,969 covid19-related, meaning still 1,501 over a typical year, and in five months)

Georgia's numbers don't seem all that much out-of-line.
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So 7,093 pneumonia deaths?
 
infection said:
Herd immunity is more of a theoretical concept. Influenza is a bad example because it is different strains every year.
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Do you think there will be different strains of this virus as well?

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fishonjazz said:
Do you think there will be different strains of this virus as well?

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Obviously, @infection is more qualified to address this. If you do a google search for mutations with this virus, there are presently lots of returns that point to a study suggesting that it has mutated into a strain that is 10x more infectious, but not more deadly. To the best of my knowledge, it has not been peer reviewed and probably best to treat the conclusion cautiously....

www.biospace.com

Mutated COVID-19 Viral Strain in U.S. and Europe 10 Times More Contagious than Original Strain

Researchers have found that the strains spreading so quickly in Europe and the U.S. have a mutated S “spike” protein that makes it about 10 times more infectious than the strain that originally was identified in Asia.
www.biospace.com www.biospace.com

 
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