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Game Thread Nov 04, 2021 05:30PM MT: Jazz at Hawks

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I think the only reason Niang wasn't brought back was a product of the Jazz being over the cap. Where if he did re-sign with the Jazz at 3.3 (who knows what he and his agent were asking from the Jazz) then it would be what, around 7mil to the Jazz?

Not a huge amount for these are the kind of things that happen when operating over the cap for multiple years.
 
This six game Eastern road trip with a random home game against the Kings in the middle of it is kind of Bollucks. I guess getting it now instead of later is good. 10 games into the schedule we have finished 40% of our total Eastern conference road schedule.
 
//r00t 4 Jazz said:
I think the only reason Niang wasn't brought back was a product of the Jazz being over the cap. Where if he did re-sign with the Jazz at 3.3 (who knows what he and his agent were asking from the Jazz) then it would be what, around 7mil to the Jazz?

Not a huge amount for these are the kind of things that happen when operating over the cap for multiple years.
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Where would he have played? We replaced him with Rudy Gay. He would have been third string. He may have liked the Jazz, but he is a better play than third string.
 
I like Niang. I suspected he would get $5 - $7 million per year based on his performance with the Jazz last year. I think he took a big hit in the playoffs which drove his price WAY down.

If I were the Jazz, I would have signed Niang again at $3.3 Million and moved on from Elijah Hughes. Cost difference? $1.7 million. Tax hit? Sizeable. Likely around $5 or $6 million in taxes. Playability? Hughes will get garbage minutes while Niang would push for the 8th man. Perhaps he would have given us a discount to stay in Utah? Say, $500,000 in discounts to be replaced by a minivan dealership promotional that he would make up that way (saving the Jazz $3,000,000 a la Udonis Haslem).

But I get that it would have been a hard call and I am happy for Niang.
 
framer said:
This six game Eastern road trip with a random home game against the Kings in the middle of it is kind of Bollucks. I guess getting it now instead of later is good. 10 games into the schedule we have finished 40% of our total Eastern conference road schedule.
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That's nuts. It's really good for the Jazz come the end of the season when we can travel less though.
 
Ultimately it came down to Niang vs Gay. Even if Niang loved it here the opportunity in PHI is better for him than competing with Gay for minutes. The Jazz did go with the more expensive option so kudos for that. It's not a given that Gay proves to be a better player than Niang IMO. He does have a wider range of outcomes. I could see him pushing Bogey/Ingles for minutes as a legit closing option whereas I couldn't see that with Niang. I could also see him taking all the "5" minutes with Paschall in the playoffs instead of Whiteside depending on the matchup. I don't think Quin would be confident in doing the same with Niang. There's a higher ceiling for Gay, but I also think the downside potential is greater given his age. His transition to a smaller, more streamlined role should help him extend his career...but Gay is already the exception for playing as long and well as he has. There's always some degree of risk to paying for years 35, 36, and 37.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
I like Niang. I suspected he would get $5 - $7 million per year based on his performance with the Jazz last year. I think he took a big hit in the playoffs which drove his price WAY down.

If I were the Jazz, I would have signed Niang again at $3.3 Million and moved on from Elijah Hughes. Cost difference? $1.7 million. Tax hit? Sizeable. Likely around $5 or $6 million in taxes. Playability? Hughes will get garbage minutes while Niang would push for the 8th man. Perhaps he would have given us a discount to stay in Utah? Say, $500,000 in discounts to be replaced by a minivan dealership promotional that he would make up that way (saving the Jazz $3,000,000 a la Udonis Haslem).

But I get that it would have been a hard call and I am happy for Niang.
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The playoff hit is real. Look at Simmons.
 
If DM is out then I see this as a loss. Atlanta has very good team and they have played us tough. Hopefully Butler gets some minutes.
 
NAOS said:
He prefers to use the tube, I think.
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Yeah I thought it was more like a silencer so that you don't disturb the rest of your family with your explosive diarrhea.
 
framer said:
Where would he have played? We replaced him with Rudy Gay. He would have been third string. He may have liked the Jazz, but he is a better play than third string.
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That was sorta my point the Jazz prioritized Gay over Niang as far as who to sign first and I was strictly speaking from the Jazz' perspective of after signing Gay had they not been over the cap I'm sure they would have liked to bring him back but the cost to bring him back was not worth it. Like others said who's to say Niang would want that role even if the Jazz offered to bring him back, sadly Niang also prolly fits PHI better with their more versatile defenders he wont be exposed as bad as with the Jazz. He does put the effort in on D just limited physically.
 
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