Archie Moses
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This is a good post.
Coronavirus
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Avery
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Amazing that we'll somehow be entering year three of this next year and people still want to argue that the vaccine isn't effective. We can banter about the long-term effects as nobody knows as we're not Marty McFly, but it's a fruitless argument until we get 10-20 years down the road when this thread is no doubt still alive.
In Utah for the past four weeks, unvaccinated individuals are:
• 4.8x as likely to test positive
• 10.9x as likely to be hospitalized
• 15.8x as likely to die from Covid
That's not hyperbole, that's not spin, that's simple fact.
That doesn't mean that an unvaccinated individual is an awful person and should be shamed as you can pick and choose what you do with your temple, but if we're going to argue that the vaccine doesn't work, data is not your friend.
And yes, anyone can spread the virus - this also isn't a point of contention as no armor exists outside of locking yourself up from the outside world.
In Utah for the past four weeks, unvaccinated individuals are:
• 4.8x as likely to test positive
• 10.9x as likely to be hospitalized
• 15.8x as likely to die from Covid
That's not hyperbole, that's not spin, that's simple fact.
That doesn't mean that an unvaccinated individual is an awful person and should be shamed as you can pick and choose what you do with your temple, but if we're going to argue that the vaccine doesn't work, data is not your friend.
And yes, anyone can spread the virus - this also isn't a point of contention as no armor exists outside of locking yourself up from the outside world.
OSHA has no authority to regulate people; they regulate employers.
Florida is down after having such wide-spread infections and the associated levels of deaths. They are not a disease prevention success story.
I acknowledged this before, and I agree there are no absolutes in life. Do you acknowledge a person's chances of passing it on are significantly reduced after being vaccinated?
9 Things You Need To Know About Molnupiravir, a New COVID-19 Pill
A new pill from Merck called molnupiravir could be game-changer in the battle against COVID-19. The company reported that the drug cut the risk of hospitalization and death by half in patients who had mild-to-moderate COVID-19.
www.yalemedicine.org
You're talking about a pill, taken after you have gotten ill and are capable of spreading the disease, which increases the rate of mutations of specific strands of RNA, one only available to high-risk adults and which might not be safe for pregnant people; the vaccine takes advantage of the body's natural immune system abilities to fight covid19. Molnupiravir does not replace the vaccine; it's like using Plan B instead of birth control. There is no good reason to prefer molnupiravir over vaccination, and you can still use molnupiravir if you get sick after being vaccinated.
Might have been me, but I would usually say CNN is not really biased to the political left or right, but has a bias toward sensationalism.
Avery
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CNN is the TMZ of the news world. No individual should pay attention to them.
Red
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The pill is for people who have come down with Covid, no? What about the sizable % of people who develop so-called long haul Covid? The two most debilitating symptoms of long haul, in my estimation, are extreme fatigue, and brain fog. And the brain fog may be the beginning of Alzheimer’s. Will this pill prevent long haul from developing? I would rather get a vaccine that helped prevent Covid altogether, and for the simple fact that long haul Covid is a thing, and I don’t want to live with brain fog and extreme fatigue for months, years? Even people with asymptomatic Covid, who don’t even know they had the illness, have come down with these post Covid symptoms months later. They would not even know to take the pill. And I would have no problem with getting annual boosters if it came to that.
New research: More than third of COVID-19 patients become 'long haul' cases
There's significant new research on the scope of what's known as "long COVID."
www.wbaltv.com
Coronavirus (COVID-19) Everything You Need to Know | Healthline
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www.healthline.com
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Archie Moses
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I read CNN as my number one news source. I'm not ashamed in the least bit.
I read a meme the other day that said: If you don't read the news you're uninformed. If you do read the news, you're misinformed. I thought it was sadly true (to a certain degree.)
Yo, what's with the site bogging out so much or is it just me?
I like:
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www.allsides.com
It at least provides some perspective as to what is going on out there. I regularly look at Fox, CNN, Drudge Report, Drudge Retort, etc. All of the sources have some good insight, and some very biased crap. It is about filtering through the muck and finding the data. If you only look at CNN or Fox News, one would be getting a biased view.
I actually find local news sources discussing the "national issues" to provide the best balanced reporting.
Beat me to it. Is the actual problem that people are afraid of needles?
Archie Moses
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This is such a poor comparison. You're probably my favorite poster too.
You do realize the percentages of people actually dying from Covid, right?
Don't preach to me this bs.
Archie Moses
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This doesn't mean I don't get it, trust me, I do.
I'd like to think I both shoot things straight and am open minded.
Yes, the percentage of people dying from COVID is shockingly high for a disease that is infecting as many people as it is. Something like 97%-99.75% of people who get COVID survive. That's not a good number.
800,000 Americans dead.