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The *OFFICIAL* Russia Is About To Invade Ukraine Thread

So did they invade?

Even the Ukrainian Prez is trying to tell Biden to STFU and stop making him ground zero for his political problem at home. Like Clinton bombing the aspirin factory in Timbuktu or wherever, and Bush/Albright suckering Iraq to take the Persian Gulf mudflat ten square mile oil well, just to strut some imagined "stuff", killing hundreds of thousands of humans, paying for trillions of much needed military stuff to save the military industries who paid his campaign bills.

Who cares about American lives lost or American taxpayers anyway?

Biden, and the general CFR crew and Liz are war mongers.
 
Even the Ukrainian Prez is trying to tell Biden to STFU and stop making him ground zero for his political problem at home. Like Clinton bombing the aspirin factory in Timbuktu or wherever, and Bush/Albright suckering Iraq to take the Persian Gulf mudflat ten square mile oil well, just to strut some imagined "stuff", killing hundreds of thousands of humans, paying for trillions of much needed military stuff to save the military industries who paid his campaign bills.

Who cares about American lives lost or American taxpayers anyway?

Biden, and the general CFR crew and Liz are war mongers.
If you remove "CFR", I agree completely.
 
If you remove "CFR", I agree completely.

The fact that the CFR is mostly a collection of ignoramuses duped into joining club as a means of pretending to be significant or educated or sophisticated means you have a point, maybe even proves you are right on that point.

But it is still the waterhole where our establishment tries to pass it's stuff off on the damned public.

As such, whatever Biden and his team has got going on, it is used to spread that word.
 
When it comes to war mongering, the establishment party (that is, the party of Democrats and Republicans) has always had the media to spread the message.
It’s true.

No one wants to address this because it means we can’t just throw our weight around the world. It means we have to collaborate with others. It puts yourself or your party as being soft or unsupportive of the armed forces.
 
It means we have to collaborate with others.
We do collaborate with others. We make weapons and collaborate with other nations to take their money in exchange for delivering some of those weapons. The manufacturers of those weapons then collaborate with the reelection campaigns of politicians in the form of campaign funds. The campaigns collaborate with media by making massive campaign advertisement purchases with the campaign funds. We're all one big happy boat of collaboration.
 
Here's something about Russia with relevance today. I listened for two hours to his daughter, I think, or daugher in law, on Coast toa coast. The discussion was about Russia and the Ukraine,with historical insights.


So, that is a hard read, virtually a Q&A biography.

The lady on the radio spoke of a lifetime of experience in Russia, of a relative who was a founder of the OSS during WWII.

I believe she thought Gorbachev was our best-ever hope for a Russia that would assimilate into the West, a prospect that faded when we broke our promises to Gorbachev in the early 1990s. Putin is not an ideologue any more than Trump is, but a traditional Russian leader who is working within historical Russian trends. Russian democracy is as far away as Czarist history. But he believes good relations with neighbors are essential to a kind of sphere of influence around Russia. Hej is reacting to Western aggression into that sphere.

The large Russian minority in Ukraine favors any successful political leader to favor good relations with Russia, not the West. Putin might help that minority stand their ground, but it is not even the idea that Russia will take that ground.

More likely, we will see Western-back fascist groups set up provocations and try to make hay politically within the Ukraine by undermining a moderate political figure.

A new globalist agenda might try to just include Russia into NATO to balance China if necessary.
 
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