Trade deadline discussion

[Elizah Huge]

I'm already sick of NAW. Can we get our picks back please?

**** those picks. NAW is going to be awesome.

 

[Release the Kraken]

Wow, I had another Hernangomez in mind, this kid looks decent, could be the answer we've been looking for in the Small Ball lineup!

 

[infection]

NAW is very slight and is not physical at all. He's not someone who can guard guys bigger than him.

I was surprised by his measurements when I watch video he looks like he’s 6’2”.

 

[Ujfanatic]

Maybe. They can still make trades after the season has ended but before July 1st (free agency). Which includes the draft. This is how we got Ricky Rubio.

But aren’t all salaries paid out by that point? I get there is still a chance to do trades on the 21-22 schedule before July 1 but guess I’m a little confused as to how that would impact this. I thought the whole point of having a minimum salary is to penalize teams for doing exactly what the Thunder are doing.

 

[infection]

Wow, I had another Hernangomez in mind, this kid looks decent, could be the answer we've been looking for in the Small Ball lineup!

On one hand you’d say he’s the big that allows more Forrest minutes to happen, but on the other hand you’ve got a lineup where 2/5 guys are Hernangomez and Forrest.

 

[infection]

What would actually be most interesting is if Juancho surprises to any degree and when the Lockes and such come out to say “the Jazz always knew this, that’s why they brought him in.”

 

[The Fresh Prince]

Wow, I had another Hernangomez in mind, this kid looks decent, could be the answer we've been looking for in the Small Ball lineup!

Wouldn't it be some **** if Juan turns into a modified version of Memo. Lol

 

[KqWIN]

I was surprised by his measurements when I watch video he looks like he’s 6’2”.

He has decent length, but he could also blow over with a strong gust of wind. It would be hysterical if he matched up against PG or Kawhi for example. And tougher players like Booker and CP3 are going to be able to run over him too with his their strength.

I think his defensive talent, and I'm using that word loosely, is his ability to play passing lanes. I think the Jazz have so many bad on ball defenders it almost doesn't matter at this point. The defense will find a place to attack, but the Jazz have to be willing to scramble and get good at it. I'm worried that when Rudy comes back, we just revert back to the same old defense. We played great last night and NAW could be really helpful in that time scheme where he can play passing lanes and cover ground. Defensive metrics liked his defense because of his playmaking his second year.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm already sick of NAW. Can we get our picks back please?

Those picks were very late... the real motivation to do the deal is likely the extra $5M owed to NAW next year.

He's an okay prospect... again its like a 5-10% shot he becomes anything. I think he's interesting enough to sell the fans on the idea that you didn't just sell off Joe's deal to save $11M this year.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The thing I wonder.... there weren't any deals where useful players were traded for a first and expiring salary... White maybe but not truly expiring. If we had held the pick we gave away for Favs could we have done the White deal? Is there another deal out there we could have done. I'm not sure if no one was really putting picks on the table or if they were and it wasn't good enough.

 

[David Hume]

This seasons success may depend entirely upon Forrest's development and NAW's ability to handle the SF minutes

Yet if Jordan Taylor Clarkson can reestablish the Microwave/Flamethrower propensities that propelled him into 6th man of the year accolades, and if this new man, NAW, exceeds expectations, then by Bayesian probability we may establish enhanced odds of achieving victory.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The depressing realization that we are stuck with Jordan Clarkson for 2.5 more years.

While JB and Forrest get marginalized.

 

[jom2003]

Woodard just got released by the Kings.

Remember there being a conversation about picking him over Doke. May be time to take a flyer? He does play 3/4, which is a position of need for the jazz

 

[Release the Kraken]

So this is what my buddy from Philly texted me last night:
Utah made a good move. They traded Ingles and he might never play again. I can't believe anybody would take him! Risky!
And all it cost us was a couple of second rounders and a G League Alum and yet everybody around here is glum.

And yet it's party city in Philly right now cause they finally got something for Ben Simmons. And it only cost them Steph's younger brother, their backup center (Drummond) and two first rounders.

Perspective

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Woodard just got released by the Kings.

Remember there being a conversation about picking him over Doke. May be time to take a flyer? He does play 3/4, which is a position of need for the jazz

We can really only offer a two way if we keep House and Forrest. Maybe if Ryan decides to spend we could release Juan but I doubt we waive him. He's an nba player.

I think a two-way might be enough.

 

[KqWIN]

Now this is someone we should look at. I don't think we have a roster spot if Forrest gets a real deal and we sign House...but I'd bet on Bembry over Juancho for sure.

 

[jom2003]

We can really only offer a two way if we keep House and Forrest. Maybe if Ryan decides to spend we could release Juan but I doubt we waive him. He's an nba player.

I think a two-way might be enough.

Don't mind start the Niang experiment on Woodard. He's got great tools but just got buried by the KANGZ. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

From Hollinger's article on buyout guys... this is totally going to happen... isn't it.

17. Juancho Hernangomez, PF, Utah – Juancho Hernangomez has only played 147 minutes this season for Boston and San Antonio, and the Jazz acquired him mainly in the spirit of luxury-tax avoidance. His non-guaranteed $7.5 million deal for next season wouldn’t seem to be a big part of Utah’s plans either, and a buyout could potentially save the tax-paying Jazz some more money if they fill his roster spot with spaced-apart 10-days. In this case, I would suspect a Hernangomez buyout would land him with a team in Spain rather than another NBA club.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Now this is someone we should look at. I don't think we have a roster spot if Forrest gets a real deal and we sign House...but I'd bet on Bembry over Juancho for sure.

See my post above... I'll bet we negotiate a buyout with Juan and he gives back some money. Then we hold a roster spot open and sign House and Forrest.

 

[KqWIN]

From Hollinger's article on buyout guys... this is totally going to happen... isn't it.

17. Juancho Hernangomez, PF, Utah – Juancho Hernangomez has only played 147 minutes this season for Boston and San Antonio, and the Jazz acquired him mainly in the spirit of luxury-tax avoidance. His non-guaranteed $7.5 million deal for next season wouldn’t seem to be a big part of Utah’s plans either, and a buyout could potentially save the tax-paying Jazz some more money if they fill his roster spot with spaced-apart 10-days. In this case, I would suspect a Hernangomez buyout would land him with a team in Spain rather than another NBA club.

Jazz twitter posted a welcome video for NAW but not Juancho.

Pls just sign Bembry, House, and Forrest. I'll let Ryan use my golf clubs.