That would be great...but I think once House is back Quin will have enough options that he won't have to play NAW or Butler.
Jazz acquire NAW and Juancho Hernangomez for Ingles, Hughes, and two 2nd round picks.
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That would be great...but I think once House is back Quin will have enough options that he won't have to play NAW or Butler.
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Maybe we should all pretend to be super excited about him and ask him about NAW playing time in every press conference. Then he can get super annoyed and feel like he’s crushing our dreams when he plays butler over him.
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Can’t believe Andy would suggest that maybe NAW won’t play… doesn’t he know how high he was selected and how great his wingspan is???? All he needs to do is improve at basketballing!!! I mean once he puts new laundry on he instantly shakes off all the bad NOP vibes.
I’m going to go ahead and post it because I think it’s an important part of the process.
This whole public tour of him reporting to a team he’ll never play for, taking media photos in jerseys, etc. There’s obviously a business side and $11M is no small beans, but I think all the emotion Joe has felt, all he’s done for the franchise and community, wanting to “be with” the team, even if not playing, being constantly in trade rumors all year… I know he understands it’s business, but with all that passion and sacrifice on the line, it’s going to be hard for him to see all he’s done over the years and feel an important part of the franchise and community and feel he’s being reduced and distilled down to “a contract.” “A liability.” And that’s going to sting, no matter how much he intellectually says the correct “it’s business” answers, and no matter how much he can go through the motions of saying “if me being traded helps the team.”
This is Joe’s way of passive-aggressively saying “**** you” to the higher ups of the organization. If we’re still trying to contend as a team, we’ve gotten rid of his space at the table. It’s like waiting in line for a ride with your buddies and one of your kids. You get to the front of the line and find out the ride only seats 5 and there’s 6 of you, so you ask your kid if they’re okay with you and your buddies going, since they’re a little kid and may not even like it, and you tell them you’ll go on it with them some time later. Not today, and not next weekend. But sometime.
Your kid’s gonna ****ing hate you. It doesn’t matter how “cool with it” they seemed when you put them on the spot.
You can argue business all you want and that’s a reality. But this is what’s happening when you peel back the “it’s just business” and get to the emotion behind it.
Everyone kept saying how “Joe’s heart is always here” and “he doesn’t want to play anywhere else” and “he’s going to stay in SLC” and “he’ll re-sign with us in the summer.” Everyone repeating how we’re not trading Joe, we’re “just trading a contract” and it’s “just a formality.” Joe knows people seeing him in another jersey feels wrong and will sting — because that’s a modicum of how he felt being tossed aside as “someone who isn’t going to play anyway.”
This is how he communicates that.
This whole public tour of him reporting to a team he’ll never play for, taking media photos in jerseys, etc. There’s obviously a business side and $11M is no small beans, but I think all the emotion Joe has felt, all he’s done for the franchise and community, wanting to “be with” the team, even if not playing, being constantly in trade rumors all year… I know he understands it’s business, but with all that passion and sacrifice on the line, it’s going to be hard for him to see all he’s done over the years and feel an important part of the franchise and community and feel he’s being reduced and distilled down to “a contract.” “A liability.” And that’s going to sting, no matter how much he intellectually says the correct “it’s business” answers, and no matter how much he can go through the motions of saying “if me being traded helps the team.”
This is Joe’s way of passive-aggressively saying “**** you” to the higher ups of the organization. If we’re still trying to contend as a team, we’ve gotten rid of his space at the table. It’s like waiting in line for a ride with your buddies and one of your kids. You get to the front of the line and find out the ride only seats 5 and there’s 6 of you, so you ask your kid if they’re okay with you and your buddies going, since they’re a little kid and may not even like it, and you tell them you’ll go on it with them some time later. Not today, and not next weekend. But sometime.
Your kid’s gonna ****ing hate you. It doesn’t matter how “cool with it” they seemed when you put them on the spot.
You can argue business all you want and that’s a reality. But this is what’s happening when you peel back the “it’s just business” and get to the emotion behind it.
Everyone kept saying how “Joe’s heart is always here” and “he doesn’t want to play anywhere else” and “he’s going to stay in SLC” and “he’ll re-sign with us in the summer.” Everyone repeating how we’re not trading Joe, we’re “just trading a contract” and it’s “just a formality.” Joe knows people seeing him in another jersey feels wrong and will sting — because that’s a modicum of how he felt being tossed aside as “someone who isn’t going to play anyway.”
This is how he communicates that.
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NAW was a turnover machine in his last few games in NO. he played an average of 20mins.
vs Nuggets - 5
pistons -4
cavs -3
Celtics -1
nuggets -3
not sure how he can even get at least 6 minutes here. forest, butler, paschall are all playing well.
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Actually you are wrong. He’s a double agent sent up their to recruit Josh Hart and gather intel.
The nonsense about them wanting his bird rights was weird but it was definitely nonsense. I do think we offer him a min deal this offseason so he can get paid to rehab. Him coming back here has more to do with not moving his family than anything. But maybe he’s hurt enough to pass.
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Would depend on his play.
Oh yeah. Forgot that part.
We just spent two second rounders and Ingles’ locker room presence to drop $4M this year. But we added $5M next year. That’s some great math, and we should be asking what it’s going to cost us to drop salary next year, because next year our baseline cap is $2M higher, and that’s with waiving Juancho. And we only have 10 guys under contract.
Earlier in the season the media guys threw out the wet blanket of how filling the 14th roster spot with a veteran would really cost us like $9M. So we’re going to have to 1) essentially stand pat with an older roster and 2) add three more people on the roster. His $5M will have collateral damage. Would be ironic if that collateral damage was not being able to bring back Joe. “Look, we all like Joe but Ryan doesn’t run a charity and bringing in Joe would cost $10M between salary and taxes and he’s 35 coming off a major injury.”
For those who think NAW will be in the rotation, it's worth noting that in their first games with the Jazz, Crowder played 28 minutes, Korver played 22 and Clarkson played 21. All three guys were traded for during the season and didn't have time to learn the system or get a few practices under their belt, Quin trusted them right away. In NAW's first game he played a minute and a half of garbage time when we were up almost 20 points, in a game that we were down two rotation players (Gobert and Gay) and another likely rotation player in House.