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Game Thread Mar 29, 2022 08:00PM MT: Jazz at Clippers

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LoPo said:
I didn't get to watch the game but I knew you would blame Donovan somehow. You're more predictable than the sun.

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I hardly ever agree with CY but 4 turnovers that includes a Chris Weber timeout, a turnover with :50 left, forced shots, and missed layups (again....) in the final 5 minutes had a lot to do with losing.
 
SteakNEggs said:
I hardly ever agree with CY but 4 turnovers that includes a Chris Weber timeout, a turnover with :50 left, forced shots, and missed layups (again....) in the final 5 minutes had a lot to do with losing.
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This. Mitchell is easily the worst "star" in the final minutes of close games. And the stats prove that out. He makes bad decisions and forces things.

But we lost this one due to coaching imo. When we got punched in the mouth and we started to melt, the coach is supposed to rally the troops, give them something to focus on, and keep them engaged in the plan that got them the lead. Instead he more or less let's Mitchell et al just do whatever the **** they want. So hero ball it is. Or maybe that's really what Snyder wanted? In either case, he needs to go. He has zero feel for the flow of the game and zero ability to get his team to rally through the difficult moments.
 
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SteakNEggs said:
I hardly ever agree with CY but 4 turnovers that includes a Chris Weber timeout, a turnover with :50 left, forced shots, and missed layups (again....) in the final 5 minutes had a lot to do with losing.
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Like I said, I didn't see the game and haven't watched a highlight (or in our case lowlight). I just knew it was going to be Donovan's fault in Cy's eyes and all the mounting Don haters. That's the mindset this fanbase has taken over the last few months regardless of what actually transpires. It's toxic, constantly negative, and deflating to the entire fanbase.
 
LoPo said:
Like I said, I didn't see the game and haven't watched a highlight (or in our case lowlight). I just knew it was going to be Donovan's fault in Cy's eyes and all the mounting Don haters. That's the mindset this fanbase has taken over the last few months regardless of what actually transpires. It's toxic, constantly negative, and deflating to the entire fanbase.
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It can be toxic for sure but I find this teams immaturity, softness, and downright petty infighting more toxic. And no I don't have definitive proof of the infighting but it's pretty obvious this teams lacks any sort of camaraderie or trust in one another. I think that is directly on Mitchell and Gobert.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I try really hard to never complain about officiating, but yeah, I agree the officiating was pretty one sided at the end. All of the questionable type calls went to the Clippers.

It's pretty frustrating when Rudy gets called for offensive fouls on his screens down the stretch. They can call that every time, yet wait until really crucial moments to get picky.
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It's the same thing that's been happening to the Lakers on the road (ironic that's our next opponent). Perfect narrative from a league perspective though, "star player comes back sparks home team's comeback win".
 
LogGrad98 said:
The NBA has accomplished it's goal this year, because we are all numb to the incredibly inconsistent and ****** officiating this year. That is what they wanted. Make it chaotic enough that no one notices they are controlling the games more than ever. That's exactly what they wanted from everyone going into the playoffs. Now they can call whatever the **** they want and we will just shrug and say "yep the officiating sucks". It's really put a dark cloud on this season imo. You can't rely on anything from the refs. One day Ingles gets tossed for touching a guy's foot trying to get out of his way, another Gobert is hit above the shoulders by 3 guys and knocked to the floor on a dunk attempt, and no call. Zero consistency. Easily the worst officiated season since I've been a fan. And that's saying something with all the Bavetta years.
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Yeah, and I've been an apologist for Silver in the past in the wake of the atrocities committed in the Stern era. But you're right it's really just more of the same. The league really hasn't been on the level since O'Brian IMO. It's a frickin curse that my favorite team sport just happens to be B'ball and that I hail from Happy Valley.:oops:
 
SteakNEggs said:
It can be toxic for sure but I find this teams immaturity, softness, and downright petty infighting more toxic. And no I don't have definitive proof of the infighting but it's pretty obvious this teams lacks any sort of camaraderie or trust in one another. I think that is directly on Mitchell and Gobert.
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Oh it's definitely on Donovan and Rudy. Many have been saying this since the covid thing. They are being forced to work together for the betterment of the franchise. Trying to win a championship. I don't think they have liked each other since that whole thing happened.

I'm biased because I like Donovan. But to me it's clear....

I think Rudy annoys the **** out of his teammates. Doesn't matter how good he is. If he's annoying, you have weird **** happen like we have had happen. Rudy is that WR that comes back to the huddle every single time and always says he's open. Or that ST on the soccer team who always demands the ball even if he's clearly covered. Just look at Rudy's quotes. Seems like every time something bad happens, the team stopped doing this or the team stopped doing that.

If Donovan had gone 1-6 from the free throw line and allowed so many 4th quarter offensive rebounds to LA last night, Donovan would have called himself out after the game. That's why I like Donovan. He tries hard and he owns up to stuff. I think Rudy's way of going about things irritates the every living **** out of the team.
 
Let's blow it up. It will be a hell of a lot more fun than this. Fire Quin, trade Donovan. Get tons of picks.
 
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