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Roe v. Wade is going down

That is how it works which is why California, New York, and Illinois are all losing population while Florida and Texas are gaining population.
Is that also why Washington, Oregon, and Colorado are gaining population while West Virginia, Louisiana, and Mississippi are losing population? It's almost like other factors are more important.

When politicians do stupid things like turning 1950's Detroit into 1980's Detroit, people leave.
When politicians do these things in Atlanta, they come in droves. It's almost like other factors are more important.
 
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The reported draft opinion is thoughtful, scholarly, and thorough. It does the work that the majority in Roe and Casey refused to do, looking to the Constitution itself to determine whether it includes a right to an abortion. The opinion concludes it does not.

The 9th amendment does not mention the states at all. Rights are retained exclusively by people.


The 10th does refer to powers, but says these power might belong to the states, or the people.



If the law recognizes abortion as a right of the people, it might pass muster here. My understand is that the 9th does not create rights on its own, just recognizes that unenumerated rights might exist.
I get your point, but the IX and X amendment have both been consistently interpreted to give rights to the states.

Originally the Ninth included a clause that Madison drafted that would not allow courts expand federal power by interpretation. This was removed by a committee to Madison's dismay. Federalists wanted the bill of rights to prevent federal expansion of power. Makes sense due to political climate at the time. The removal of that clause completely gutted the original intent, and has been used as an excuse for judicial activism ever since. My concern with judicial activism is it allows lifetime appointees to create (not interpret) the laws that affect us all. Not that this is much worse than law created by legislators that generally don't give a damn about their constituents.

There is a question whether the Commerce Clause would allow Federal regulation of abortion. There have been debates on trying to expand the commerce clause with a roller coaster of success and failure since 120 in the EC Knight case and has continued with Lopez, Morrison and Raich as the main cases from my recollection. Where Raich comes to a different conclusion that Lopez and Morrison, but the trending thought it the CC can't be used to allow protect abortion rights and prevent restriction of them. The CC like many part of the Constitution, have different interpretations, but I think the current court would more likely say that states have rights so the Federal Gov. law preserving abortion would likely be unconstitutional on that basis alone.

At the same time, this reversal can be a double edged sword. Pro-choice proponents can now push for states to allow abortion at much later terms (for good or bad) that pre-viability (some states were doing that already, which was likely illegal).

As far as the leak, the more I think about it, the more I think it could have come from either size of the bench. A sad day for the court.

A similar bill was already proposed, but they needed 60 votes, and it didn't get close. Even removing the filibuster, they may not get it. I guess we will see...
 
Fun fact: There is nothing illegal about this leak, no matter who did it. So, sure, prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law.
No, but it may cause the person to have violated the ethical rules of their respective bar, which could ruin their career. A bold move if itnwas a law clerk in the early part of their career.
 
The reported draft opinion is thoughtful, scholarly, and thorough. It does the work that the majority in Roe and Casey refused to do, looking to the Constitution itself to determine whether it includes a right to an abortion. The opinion concludes it does not.
This is you speaking as a lawyer or Constitutional scholar? Because from what I can tell, opinions on the thoughtfulness, scholarliness, and thoroughness of Roe/Casey seem to vary with a person's political bent.

I get your point, but the IX and X amendment have both been consistently interpreted to give rights to the states.
I did look up the history of jurisprudence on these amendments, and to my very untrained eye, this seems to be true for the X, while the IX has primarily been seen as "this is how you read the Constitution" as opposed to being something that supports states ability to legislate. Can you name any case where the IX has been used to support state powers (as opposed to saying it is not relevant to an argument regard state powers)?

The removal of that clause completely gutted the original intent, and has been used as an excuse for judicial activism ever since.
From what I can tell, the first case of it's uses for "activism" was in Griswold vs Connecticut, (1965), regarding the right to use contraception being removed by a state government (also a right not enumerated in the Constitution). Do you feel that usage was incorrect?

My concern with judicial activism is it allows lifetime appointees to create (not interpret) the laws that affect us all. Not that this is much worse than law created by legislators that generally don't give a damn about their constituents.
So often, 'rulings I don't like' = "judicial activism" (on both the right and the left). What's your definition of "judicial activism"?
 
This is you speaking as a lawyer or Constitutional scholar? Because from what I can tell, opinions on the thoughtfulness, scholarliness, and thoroughness of Roe/Casey seem to vary with a person's political bent.


I did look up the history of jurisprudence on these amendments, and to my very untrained eye, this seems to be true for the X, while the IX has primarily been seen as "this is how you read the Constitution" as opposed to being something that supports states ability to legislate. Can you name any case where the IX has been used to support state powers (as opposed to saying it is not relevant to an argument regard state powers)?


From what I can tell, the first case of it's uses for "activism" was in Griswold vs Connecticut, (1965), regarding the right to use contraception being removed by a state government (also a right not enumerated in the Constitution). Do you feel that usage was incorrect?


So often, 'rulings I don't like' = "judicial activism" (on both the right and the left). What's your definition of "judicial activism"?
I am not a constitutional scholar, and am a very slightly left leaning centrist. Left more on social issues and slightly right on fiscal policy.

As I have said previously, I respect a women's right to choose but personally believe in the sanctity of all life (against death penalty too).

What I don't like, is when appointed (often for life) federal judges, leglislate from the bench, pulling out ideas that seem to have no rational basis from the underlying text or legislative history.

So even though I like the immediate outcome of Roe, Casey and Griswold (abortion and birth control rights), I do think they are interpreting the Constitution to provide rights that aren't there, and expanding in a way Madison and many founders feared and wanted to prevent courts from having the power to do. I'd rather see federal laws or amendments rather than a court decide a right to privacy (or other provisions) exist in the Constitution when it just doesn't exist. Marbury v. Madison was the first time the court expanded their power, and since the White House got the ruling they wanted, they accepted it. Like Madison, I think a government that creates laws through elected officials is a better choice. Courts should have the most limited power of the three branches of government.

Our legislators should make laws.

You have to also realize Roe and Casey were double edged swords. It gave rights but also restricted abortions. Now that is out the window (if it is ruled as drafted). So states will now have even more autonomy. Nonprofits can transport women across borders to ensure they can abort at any time a state allows with no restrictions. IMO, no one really wins from this.
 
Douchebag K: annnnndddd here comes america's next civil war
Al-O-Meter: Not at all. People will move rather than fight a civil war.
Gameface: This is so incredibly dumb.
Al-O-Meter: Do you really believe war is preferable to relocating to a different state?
Gameface: Oh for ****s sake. We're not going to have a civil war over this.
Glad we're in agreement.
 
is life...is human...is distinct from its host.
Who taught you biology?!?

if you submit a DNA sample to 23&me of a tumor and a sample from anywhere else in the body, it will come back as the same person because it is the same person. If you take a DNA sample from a fetus and a same of the mother, they will come back as different people because they are different people.
 
I’m probably the most pro life of any of you. I believe life begins at ejaculation. Every ejaculation results in millions of deaths. Do you really want that on your conscience? God will certainly judge you. It’s genocide. Every time you go to porn hub or (in my case) get a Grannies shake in Heber, you commit genocide. You want that? You’re worse than Hitler.

This is why I advocate for mandatory vasectomies for all boys once they reach puberty. Any boys who don’t get a vasectomy? Can be charged with murder. Anyone caught helping these boys avoid this medical procedure? Can be turned in for $10,000 dollars. That goes for doctors, uber drivers, etc. Why the hell not? The constitution doesn’t say we can’t do this. And we aren’t a democracy either. So why the hell not?

Sure this might be obstructive, risk some boys’ lives, and be expensive. But I’m pro life so deal with it! We need to save the lives of millions of sperm. And since I can’t tell you what life is exactly, I’ll just claim that god told me that sperm is life and expect you to respect me and my views. The vasectomy can be reversed once these young men prove that they want children and can support children. After all, I don’t want any sperm to be dropped, wasted, or killed.

If you think I’m extreme please check yourself. Please respect my sincerely held religious beliefs. Don’t cancel me. Don’t cancel sperm. **** your feelings, get snipped, and stop committing genocide.

Stop killing sperm you godless Nazi commies
 
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I fought cancer and won... and then I got charged with suicide.
Did the constitution explicitly say you could fight cancer?

Should’ve thought about that before you beat cancer. Checkmate lib

Btw, if you really did beat cancer, congrats. Seriously.
 
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