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Why would the Jazz lose later if they both stayed? They're complimentary "star"

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The matrix is with reference to decisions this off-season. I'm mostly in the "keep both" camp. The reference to losing later by keeping both is that you're getting much less a return by waiting for Donovan to ask out. He's gone regardless unless we win two titles and you can't walk away from it, so it's just a question of how much you can get for him. I think you get 90 cents on the dollar now and significantly diminished returns later. I'm totally fine with taking that risk, keeping both, and getting a good coach while cleaning up the roster (even if that's as simple as moving out Conley and Royce and filling those spots with guys like Juancho and House [not necessarily those specific guys filling that role, but just saying opening up more time for two way guys]). I'd like to maximize what we have now and really go for it. I think most people are down from seeing our poor results which I think are artificially depressed as a result of taking an approach that looks at basketball on paper and completely neglects psychology. A new coach could inject that to what we've got. The Celtics turned it around and I know everyone would appeal to "lol they've got all the right tools," but if they continued the trajectory they were on and totally flamed out, nobody right now would be sitting here talking about the Celtics and saying "OMG they've got all the right tools!!1"
 
Yeah, Lopo does this constantly. It's extremely annoying.
Sorry you don't comprehend. For Rudy fans, the lines are always....

"If any of our players do well, it's because of Rudy. If any of our players do poorly, it's not because of Rudy.
Rudy is a perfect player for what he does well and that makes it okay that he hasn't evolved in any of his struggle areas."
 
Sorry you don't comprehend. For Rudy fans, the lines are always....

"If any of our players do well, it's because of Rudy. If any of our players do poorly, it's not because of Rudy.
Rudy is a perfect player for what he does well and that makes it okay that he hasn't evolved in any of his struggle areas."
More Lopo making up arguments that nobody else said.
 
Sorry you don't comprehend. For Rudy fans, the lines are always....

"If any of our players do well, it's because of Rudy. If any of our players do poorly, it's not because of Rudy.
Rudy is a perfect player for what he does well and that makes it okay that he hasn't evolved in any of his struggle areas."

So ****ing true lol last thing I knew defensive rating was a personal stat but apparently not.
 
Right on cue, Lopo makes up another thing in his mind that nobody else said.
Nobody blames Rudy for anything. Are you serious?

If we said that we lost a series because of Rudy, people would lose their minds around here. Hell, they already did when somebody said we would have beaten the Clippers, or Nuggets, or Mavs if Rudy had an offensive game.
 
Wow, something needs to happen soon so y'all will stop bitching at each other, and some decent conversation can happen around here.
I agree. This Rudy vs Don divide is incredibly annoying. It's been going on since the COVID diagnosis and hasn't really stopped since. I'm hoping that this all goes away when one or both is traded, but I doubt it.
 
Definitely not Rudy's fault. Like ever
Or Mitchell’s fault. Like ever.

It works both ways.
Nobody blames Rudy for anything. Are you serious?

If we said that we lost a series because of Rudy, people would lose their minds around here. Hell, they already did when somebody said we would have beaten the Clippers, or Nuggets, or Mavs if Rudy had an offensive game.
In fairness, Rudy could be prime Olajuwon and it wouldn’t matter with Mitchell’s high usage rate combined with his below average passing.

I can see blaming Rudy for our playoff losses a year ago. But this year (and the last month of the regular season) were on Mitchell and / or Snyder. Something was off with Mitchell… not sure if it was physical or mental. Hope he gets it back together, because prior to this year Mitchell was historically amazing in the playoffs.
 
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