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Predict the Rudy Gobert trade

They don't play for each other though.... I think it absolutely bleeds over. It can be counterproductive to be too close... but I just feel its an environment of too much selfishness and it starts with those two. I know they eat together sometimes but I just think its different than a traditional work environment. If you don't get along I think it does matter.

I think the root of their frustration starts with the inability to win. They couldn't win with the coaching/roster around them, they could have absolutely won more even if they hated each other if the coaching/roster was better. I think years of losing with the same teammates, not just each other, will grind on everyone. Especially when the some of the rare players that were moved were the A+ locker room guys. There are a lot of things that factor into a working relationship. You may not like someone on your team in the office, but if you like the other people around you or the team is really good at accomplishing things it doesn't matter. Have the same team where nothing changes, you're not in a position to succeed, and the people everyone likes are gone and that is sure to piss anyone off. Simply having a stronger willed coach can make a huge difference, as evident by Boston's turnaround this season. But at the same time, there would be no turnaround to be had for Boston if their roster was set up to fail or Ime was a bad basketball coach.

I don't think they like each other as people, but it is somewhat of a chicken or the egg problem. IMO, the lack of success is creating major personal issues and it's not the personal issues creating the lack of success. If Quin had a pulse in the LAC series or the FO had better solutions to perimeter defense than Miye Oni I think this team would have made a finals appearance. There were times where this team were all best friends and they still got clapped in the playoffs. Don and Rudy are not perfect on or off the court, but the failures of this franchise are really not the problem in my eyes. How friendly Don-Rudy matters somewhat, but nowhere near the impact that having an inept coach has. I'd like to have them on better terms but I'd also really like to have a better coach and more balanced roster around them.
 
Locke did seem to support the theory that its keep those two together and if it doesn't work in a year then trade them all. Would absolutely cause some people to melt which would be kinda funny

I'm completely fine with keeping them both as long as we move some of the core around them. I honestly don't feel like I can watch another season like last season. I'm hoping we can at least move a couple of the combination of Mike, Royce, Bogey, JC....but I'm honestly pretty skeptical at this point.
 
I'm completely fine with keeping them both as long as we move some of the core around them. I honestly don't feel like I can watch another season like last season. I'm hoping we can at least move a couple of the combination of Mike, Royce, Bogey, JC....but I'm honestly pretty skeptical at this point.

That's where I'm at. I really felt like we should have already done this last summer. I had no belief in our roster to succeed because our flaws were so obvious and not addressed at all. Everyone knew that roster could not win the way it was constructed. I'm very open to bringing them both back, it is my preferred option, but that requires the FO to make some changes around them.
 
That's where I'm at. I really felt like we should have already done this last summer. I had no belief in our roster to succeed because our flaws were so obvious and not addressed at all. Everyone knew that roster could not win the way it was constructed. I'm very open to bringing them both back, it is my preferred option, but that requires the FO to make some changes around them.
The Warriors wanted to trade us Wiggins and Quin refused...
 
Wiggins name was never brought up lolz. It was Ingles for 13 which in fact had to be Looney + Paschall added to make the salary work.
 
The more I watch GS vs Boston the more I am convinced we don't need to build around Rudy. He should just be a complimentary piece. These 2 teams can easily exploit rudys offensive and defensive weaknesses.
 
I don't remember Wiggins name ever coming up in any of the reports...it was Looney, Pascahall and Moody.
Oh, sorry if thats what was implied there. I was just saying that Wiggins was attainable preseason. GS didnt treasure him.

GS really wanted Joe, but I'd don't think Joe would have gotten Wiggins.

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Does Memphis own next years pick too? If so keep Don and Rudy and blow it up the following off-season.
No, but the Jazz owe a pick to OKC IN 2024 that is only top-10 protected (in order to get out from the immediately obvious terrible contract they gave Favors).

This is another reason the Jazz either need to get bad fast or get a lot better fast because right now it looks like the Jazz are going to convey the 10th pick in 2024 to OKC.
 
No, but the Jazz owe a pick to OKC IN 2024 that is only top-10 protected (in order to get out from the immediately obvious terrible contract they gave Favors).

This is another reason the Jazz either need to get bad fast or get a lot better fast because right now it looks like the Jazz are going to convey the 10th pick in 2024 to OKC.
OMG!!! It’s worse than I thought!!! I completely forgot about that trade. So we owe Memphis a pick in 25 draft? Yyya ship um all out blow it the **** up and pray we get a top 9 pick. But of course utah has the allstar game this year so Ryan Smith will never blow it up. I mean, does anything ever go right for us here? We suck worse in the playoffs, no one of any value would ever choose to sign here. Our players get made fun of and on top of all that… just when the perfect time comes to blow it up and interject new energy into the team the allstar game of all things is coming so our stupid owner wants to stay at least somewhat relevant so he can look good in front of his peers. I feel like as a jazz fan I can’t catch a freaking break!!! I hate the nba more than I hate my life. Lol
 
No, but the Jazz owe a pick to OKC IN 2024 that is only top-10 protected (in order to get out from the immediately obvious terrible contract they gave Favors).

This is another reason the Jazz either need to get bad fast or get a lot better fast because right now it looks like the Jazz are going to convey the 10th pick in 2024 to OKC.
Also… I need to reiterate this… not directed at you. nothing mandated that we trade Favs. We could have still signed Gay. We could have used favs as a backup and a locker room guy. Probably could still get Whiteside as he was not the hot commodity. We also could have gone into the season and moved salary later. We traded a potentially valuable pick and one that prevents us from doing a lot else with picks simply to save tax. And then owners bitch about the warriors buying titles…

Now imagine all the money we put into the rebrand… maybe just don’t sell off picks… that may have been the pick that nets you Derrick White or something valuable… we used it for some money savings. RMOE
 
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