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So...are any of the new players good?

nateboz said:
The short answer is no. They are all 6-15 roster pieces. Also the picks are plentiful but most likely going to be glorified 2nd round quality. End of 1st round picks are the worst cause those players get automatic guaranteed deals.

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Vanderbilt is starter material. I just think we need a floor stretching 5.
nateboz said:
He put up like 6 points a game. He's a hustle guy buy not an alpha at all.

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If pre paid AK47 and Detroits Rodman had a love child together it would Vanderbilt. He can dribble and pass he’s what I call an aggressive hustle guy in all aspects. Very heady. He just a winner without being a scorer like Rodman and AK. You don’t have to score a lot to be an Alfa

Hekate said:
Vanderbilt is a heady player with defensive chops. High hustle, good feel on the offensive end though skills are lacking.
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Only skill lacking is shooting. He’s good handles and can pass
LoPo said:
I think Ainge is gonna turn Bojan and a Minny 1st into Ayton.

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I’m more in favor of Ayton as time goes by. Ayton and Vandy seem a good fit and the two of them in the lineup along with Patrick Beasley I think elevates Mitchell’s affectiness and star quality
 
Vanderbilt was in a perfect situation for his skillset.

He's not a starter on most teams. He's a solid bench player.

Same with Beverly.

Same likely with Kessler.

Same likely with Bolmaro (though he has the most potential IMO).
 
Will the new guys be available for SL? Balmaro and Kessler would be fun to watch w/ Butler.
 
nateboz said:
Trading the best defensive big the NBA has had since Olajawon and getting back at best a 6th man.
No these players aren't "good". Not 1 quality starter.
The Jazz went from top 5 to bottom 5 and people are excited.
The picks are a gamble, based on the youth of this team the best the Jazz can hope for is 4+ years from now the Timberwolves suck.

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Ya but this is you we are talking about. If the jazz traded Gobert for prime hakeem and jordan you would find something to be unhappy about. You are always glass half empty.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
Vanderbilt will be a fan favorite.

I can almost guarantee the key pieces of the deal for Utah were McDaniels and Vanderbilt. I imagine Ainge wanted both, but he had to have at least one or the deal wouldn’t get done. He got Vanderbilt and when Minny said he couldn’t also have JM, Ainge made them throw in another pick.

Vanderbilt might have the best motor in the league. He’s everywhere and never stops moving. Always in the passing lanes, helping on D, crashing the offensive glass, taking charges, getting deflections, moving without the ball, running the floor, etc, and he can adequately defend all five positions. Just a badass.

Can’t shoot for ****, but he can handle the ball and is a good passer. It’s cliche, but he’s the ultimate high motor guy that can impact the game without scoring.
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Not sure if anyone else has said this but it seems like you just described andre kirilenko. Would be awesome if vanderbilt could be anything near AK.
 
fishonjazz said:
Well thats high praise. How is this vanderbilt dude?
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High energy, decent Andrés and good passer. He’s an elite rebounder. Got three offensive rebounds a game last year averaged just over 8 rebounds a game in 25 minutes per. Can guard 1-5 some gets lots of deflections. He does a lot of the same things Pistons era Rodman did, and some of the same skill set as AK
 
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