Lakers-Jazz Trade

[Elizah Huge]

Westbrook is not a huge negative.

Y'all got to stop trying to BS yourselves into acting like Utah has great **** to trade the Lakers. We don't.

Bogey/Conley/Gay isn't even worth an unprotected 2027 pick. It would have some protections on it, at least top 5. (Plus wouldn't this increase the Lakers LT payment in a major way?)

Westbrook has HUGE value. He's a 44 million expiring. Trading for Westbrook in that deal would save Utah money in the long run. The trade also helps Utah tank in a major way. Utah can't expect to get off two bad contracts while only giving up a 35 year old on an expiring deal and getting a great unprotected future pick.

Even if Utah got back no picks in the deal it would be a positive value trade for Utah. Plus we need to execute some sort of trade where we take back less players than we send out due to have too many players currently.

The math you have to do is you can probably trade Bogey to a contender for a projected late first. But where does that leave you with Conley? Gay? Is getting off those contracts that important to Utah?

I think you should sit this one out buddy. Remember when you told us Donovan wasn’t going to get traded this year?

 

[NUMBERICA]

FWIW, I searched “Jazz Lakers” on twitter and it was mostly Laker fans pumped about sending both picks for different packages of the Jazz (all of them with Bogey, most of them with Vando, more with Beasley than with Clarkson, and some with Conley).

 

[Elizah Huge]

Miami or Phoenix would give us an unprotected 1st for Bogey in a millisecond. He’s one of the most efficient scorers and one of the best shooters in the league. Any contender would love to have him he’s the perfect piece to put you over the top.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Also, JazzNotes saying this with TJ backing it up is practically a Woj bomb.

I think these negotiations are fundamentally different (easier) than with the Knicks because both teams have clear limits in terms of what they can offer. If both give everything they can then it just gets done.

 

[sip]

My biggest worry with JC is it’s a clunky fit with Sexton. We are far enough away from winning anything that fit shouldn’t be a huge issue. I’m not sure a developing team wants that many ball stoppers.

He is a tough fit with most players because of his ball dominance. I would much rather tank and give experience to the youngsters dominating the ball rather than watching Clarkson do it.

 

[Elizah Huge]

If Clarkson isn’t included in the deal I could see Memphis wanting him. They have Danny Green who is out for the entire year and is an expiring contract.

Clarkson for Green works straight up salary wise and they would add a 1st.

I know Tony is saying he doesn’t think we’d move him but I have a hard time seeing Ainge passing this deal up if it was on the table.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I’m also fairly certain Clarkson isn’t in the Lakers deal because Tony said he knows who’s being discussed but isn’t in a position to share. He did go out of his way to mention he doesn’t see Clarkson getting moved so that to me basically means he’s not in the deal.

I’m thinking it’s Bogey/Conley/Beasley for Westbrook/Nunn.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I’m also fairly certain Clarkson isn’t in the Lakers deal because Tony said he knows who’s being discussed but isn’t in a position to share. He did go out of his way to mention he doesn’t see Clarkson getting moved so that to me basically means he’s not in the deal.

I’m thinking it’s Bogey/Conley/Beasley for Westbrook/Nunn.

So it was really Bogey/Conley/Beasley/Bev for Russ/Nunn/THT... we end up with at least one unprotected first... maybe a swap or some seconds on top.

I know Tony is clued in but nothing Ainge or JZ could do would surprise me... so if they threw in Vando and JC instead of Mike and end up getting both firsts I wouldn't be shocked.

 

[Ineptimusprime]

So can someone help me understand why everyone is making the assumption that the Lakers 27 and 29 picks will be lottery picks? Are they not the most attractive free agent destination in the league and therefore likely to just reload once Bron and AD age out?

 

[Elizah Huge]

So can someone help me understand why everyone is making the assumption that the Lakers 27 and 29 picks will be lottery picks? Are they not the most attractive free agent destination in the league and therefore likely to just reload once Bron and AD age out?

They missed the playoffs 6 years in a row before LeBron signed with them.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

So can someone help me understand why everyone is making the assumption that the Lakers 27 and 29 picks will be lottery picks? Are they not the most attractive free agent destination in the league and therefore likely to just reload once Bron and AD age out?

Yes... all you have to do is look at the post Kobe Lakers... LA was very much an attractive destination then too. They had a four year run where they drafted 7,2,2,2... so yeah they very much could suck.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

They missed the playoffs 6 years in a row before LeBron signed with them.

they been in the lotto twice with Lebron as well... just wild people view them as the showtime Lakers still when they have very much been the LOLakers for a while.