Who gets waived?

[Coach Ellis]

K but Dok is in the same boat. I don't get it.

Numbers game. He gets healthy and shows out, or he’s gone by deadline this year or offseason next.

DA saw enough of JB to decide he wasn’t in the long term plans, so he moved on. Dok might still have value - they just don’t know yet.

 

[jazfan23]

I think Butler played some minutes to showcase for a trade , as they have done with Gay and will continue to until someone hopefully bites .

I’m guessing they are doing the same with Conley , I mean I just don’t understand why you sign sexton and have him coming off the bench when Conley isn’t the future ,

Ochai , I just don’t get the lack of minutes , I mean is he that good that they are putting him on ice for a season ? I can’t see what starting Clarkson , and jacking up shots does for our future , unless once again they are showcasing all these guys for future draft pick trades

I think we are all ok with tanking , but just play the youngsters.

 

[homeytennis]

I think Butler played some minutes to showcase for a trade , as they have done with Gay and will continue to until someone hopefully bites .

I’m guessing they are doing the same with Conley , I mean I just don’t understand why you sign sexton and have him coming off the bench when Conley isn’t the future ,

Ochai , I just don’t get the lack of minutes , I mean is he that good that they are putting him on ice for a season ? I can’t see what starting Clarkson , and jacking up shots does for our future , unless once again they are showcasing all these guys for future draft pick trades

I think we are all ok with tanking , but just play the youngsters.

Who knows what DA is thinking? Ideally he would like to get value for Gay, Clarkson, Conley, Beasley and Vanderbilt. Injuries happen and any or all may scratch an itch for another team.

 

[Coach Ellis]

I think Butler played some minutes to showcase for a trade , as they have done with Gay and will continue to until someone hopefully bites .

I’m guessing they are doing the same with Conley , I mean I just don’t understand why you sign sexton and have him coming off the bench when Conley isn’t the future ,

Ochai , I just don’t get the lack of minutes , I mean is he that good that they are putting him on ice for a season ? I can’t see what starting Clarkson , and jacking up shots does for our future , unless once again they are showcasing all these guys for future draft pick trades

I think we are all ok with tanking , but just play the youngsters.

Definitely, hopefully showcasing guys to see if they have trade value. I want more assets.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Who knows what DA is thinking? Ideally he would like to get value for Gay, Clarkson, Conley, Beasley and Vanderbilt. Injuries happen and any or all may scratch an itch for another team.

We were offered a 1st from the Suns for Vando. I don’t think we are going to get offered more than that.

 

[idiot]

 

[idiot]

Just in case there's any trouble in reading this, it's Tony Jones saying: "Nah. Jared got cut because his best NBA skill at this point is being an iso scorer and the Jazz have that on this roster Bolmaro is a better defender. Dok’s best skill is rim protection and the Jazz have very little of that on the roster. When you do stuff others can’t you stick."

 

[Jingled]

Just in case there's any trouble in reading this, it's Tony Jones saying: "Nah. Jared got cut because his best NBA skill at this point is being an iso scorer and the Jazz have that on this roster Bolmaro is a better defender. Dok’s best skill is rim protection and the Jazz have very little of that on the roster. When you do stuff others can’t you stick."

Tony also said that Bolmaro made the team because of his size, defense, and the fact that he's been one of the hardest workers in training camp.

 

[idiot]

Let me put on my overthinking-it hat for a second :

Jazz apparently picked up for the Stars: Frank Jackson (SG), Tyler Cook (PF), and Isaiah Miller (PG). Between them, they have about 4500 minutes of NBA experience (quite a lot for Ex. 10s). If we somehow traded a SG, PF, and PG for a player we didn't particularly want to keep (and presumably something more), these new Exhibit 10s would be nicely placed to replace those traded players.


Of course I don't think this scenario is really in play (it may not even work out money-wise to stay under the luxury tax), but it is remarkable who is available for Exhibit 10s now. Jackson has by far the most NBA experience, and Cook has been efficient, at least, both in G-League and NBA minutes. The Jazz must have liked Miller after his stint with the Jazz in the summer league this summer. He's small, but I thought he really competed as a defender. Maybe the Stars will recover some of the glory they had a few years ago with the Brantley, Morgan, Oni squad. Or maybe they'll at least get some of the Lone Peak crowd to attend games.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Tony also said that Bolmaro made the team because of his size, defense, and the fact that he's been one of the hardest workers in training camp.

I think I'm the king of Bolmaro Island. He's a spot-up 3-ball away (and it's not THAT far off) from legit rotation player, IMO.

 

[framer]

We were offered a 1st from the Suns for Vando. I don’t think we are going to get offered more than that.

Top 25 protected that turned into seconds plus they wanted Bogey and to stick us with more salary. I think we can do better than that if we are patient, he is on a really, really good contract. I'd rather just keep him for garbage Suns deal.

 

[Jingled]

I think I'm the king of Bolmaro Island. He's a spot-up 3-ball away (and it's not THAT far off) from legit rotation player, IMO.

I'm a fan of his game as well. I was conflicted when I heard the Butler news...I was upset that they released him, but I was also very happy that Bolmaro made the team. Kind of wish they would've kept both of them and waived Dok instead.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Top 25 protected that turned into seconds plus they wanted Bogey and to stick us with more salary. I think we can do better than that if we are patient, he is on a really, really good contract. I'd rather just keep him for garbage Suns deal.

Stick us with more salary? We would have saved money because we wouldn’t have had 3M guaranteed on the books next year.

 

[Masa]

Lauri will not see X-mas in Jazz. He is far too good and will be sold.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Stick us with more salary? We would have saved money because we wouldn’t have had 3M guaranteed on the books next year.

Phoenix actually loves Shamet… he’s one of Monty’s favorites… and Monty probably has as strong a voice as anyone. The deal was Saric/ Crowder for Bogey/Vando and a first with substantial protections.

Even if the Phoenix first became seconds and we moved Crowder for additional seconds… it’s still okay compared to getting a helpful player and cash considerations.

I’m okay with waiting if there is a trade later… I think the mid season trade market could get more frothy if a team gets some momentum and wants to push a few more chips in.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Phoenix actually loves Shamet… he’s one of Monty’s favorites… and Monty probably has as strong a voice as anyone. The deal was Saric/ Crowder for Bogey/Vando and a first with substantial protections.

Even if the Phoenix first became seconds and we moved Crowder for additional seconds… it’s still okay compared to getting a helpful player and cash considerations.

I’m okay with waiting if there is a trade later… I think the mid season trade market could get more frothy if a team gets some momentum and wants to push a few more chips in.

Exactly. I’m just wondering with this additional salary is supposedly coming from when we actually save 3M next year and Vando’s salary too.

 

[Eddie Zero]

Lauri will not see X-mas in Jazz. He is far too good and will be sold.

Option for Danny sure, if somehow a bad team wants to part with a top 10 pick,on the day of the draft, with a guy they covet sitting there. But before that, it is not probable at all imo. If nothing else, he is one of a couple on this team, that are going to be seen as the new core players.
In fact, I am pretty certain outside of the man himself asking for a trade, he is going to be on this roster for another contract after his current one, provided he continues to play well.
He sits with value better overall than anyone you would get in return for him,at least without giving up draft picks or another young player, so why would he be moved at all outside of trying to make the team worse? Makes no sense to trade away a former lottery pick entering his prime for the chance to develop a rookie that might not be in the league in a minute.

 

[Release the Kraken]

Frank Layden said "You can't coach height."

Not to be a big skunk at the picnic but I'm pretty sure the quote was: "you can't teach height".

PS I see where on page 16 of this thread you actually correctly picked the three waived players citing the same logic that @campaignist had employed. I actually agreed with you stating that ideally Gay gets cut instead of Johnson. (Tennis players are good at patting themselves on the back cause we do it every time we serve.)

 

[HeatCheck]

Option for Danny sure, if somehow a bad team wants to part with a top 10 pick,on the day of the draft, with a guy they covet sitting there. But before that, it is not probable at all imo. If nothing else, he is one of a couple on this team, that are going to be seen as the new core players.
In fact, I am pretty certain outside of the man himself asking for a trade, he is going to be on this roster for another contract after his current one, provided he continues to play well.
He sits with value better overall than anyone you would get in return for him,at least without giving up draft picks or another young player, so why would he be moved at all outside of trying to make the team worse? Makes no sense to trade away a former lottery pick entering his prime for the chance to develop a rookie that might not be in the league in a minute.

Maybe.

I honestly don't think there is an untouchable on the roster with *maybe* the exception of someone like Kessler as he's only entering year 1 of his rookie scale contract. He should still be under their control when they start winning again.

Vandy expires in '24. Markk in '25. If we get to 2023 or 2024 with no franchise player on the horizon I could see a scenario where Lauri is potentially traded before he becomes an expiring contract. OTOH maybe we end up with Victor so they decide to keep all the high end roleplayers such as Lauri. It's really impossible to say at this point although I'll predict that Lauri is still here on Christmas unless something unpredictable happens in the next few months.

 

[Nate505]

Lauri will not see X-mas in Jazz. He is far too good and will be sold.

If there's one thing that's undesirable in a professional basketball team, it's good players.