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fishonjazz said:
Imo the goverment should just stay out of this negotiation. But i understand the fear of the country being shut down and everyone being pissed off at the government for it even if they had nothing to do with it.

My union is in the early stages of negotiation currently. It would be sweet if the government would step in on our behalf and just give us what we want. It would suck if they took away our ability to strike. The correct thing is to probably just stay out of it.
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Looks like you were right- the government should have just stayed out of the negotiation. By stepping in they were actually blocking the workers ability to strike in order to get what they wanted. Over half of the union workers didn't like the deal, but it is being forced on them. Now if they choose to strike they can probably be arrested thanks to the most "worker friendly president" ever.
It says this was a last resort, but it sure happened quickly- it sure is amazing how quickly things can get through when they are stomping on the little guy or funding wars. How little gets done in regards to things people care about.
 
Mongoose said:
Looks like you were right- the government should have just stayed out of the negotiation. By stepping in they were actually blocking the workers ability to strike in order to get what they wanted. Over half of the union workers didn't like the deal, but it is being forced on them. Now if they choose to strike they can probably be arrested thanks to the most "worker friendly president" ever.
It says this was a last resort, but it sure happened quickly- it sure is amazing how quickly things can get through when they are stomping on the little guy or funding wars. How little gets done in regards to things people care about.
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Or republicans could have just voted the way the democrats (the president included) wanted them to and then the workers wouldnt even have wanted or needed to stike and the workers would have got what they wanted.
Too bad the republicans chose to support the rich corporation instead of the workers.

After all, workers striking is no guarantee to get what they want. Republicans could have guaranteed that the workers get what they want (a much more optimal solution than a strike) but unfortunately dont care about the workers.

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fishonjazz said:
Or republicans could have just voted the way the democrats (the president included) wanted them to and then the workers wouldnt even have wanted or needed to stike and the workers would have got what they wanted.
Too bad the republicans chose to support the rich corporation instead of the workers.

After all, workers striking is no guarantee to get what they want. Republicans could have guaranteed that the workers get what they want (a much more optimal solution than a strike) but unfortunately dont care about the workers.

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Um no- I meant to include this article as well- https://time.com/6238361/joe-biden-rail-strike-illegal/
We'll see if he goes back and fights for paid leave for "all workers"
 
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Mongoose said:
Um no- I meant to include this article as well- https://time.com/6238361/joe-biden-rail-strike-illegal/
We'll see if he goes back and fights for paid leave for "all workers"
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Your artilce so stupid though. Right at the beginning it says this: Biden decided the broader economy was a bigger priority than 100,000 freight rail workers having any paid sick leave in their next contract

He didn't though. There was a vote. But Biden wasn't involved in the vote. Most republicans voted against them getting the paid sick leave. Most democrats voted for them to get the sick leave. Biden wanted them to get their sick leave and also thought the economy was important and hoped congress would award the workers with paid sick leave. The republican portion of congress didn't want to award the workers with sick leave. That is what happenend.

You are an idiot for putting blame for this on biden when there were literally people who had votes on the matter. ALL THE BLAME IS ON THOSE WHO VOTED AGAINST THE WORKERS GETTING SICK PAY!!! How partisan do you have to be to not see that?
 
One Brow said:
According to VICE, the issue was never about sick pay to start with, but overwork, exhaustion, and safety:

www.vice.com

The Freight Rail Labor Dispute Was Never About ‘Sick Days’

Workers were not threatening to shut down the nation’s rail system over a few sick days. They were sounding the alarm on a broken system that affects us all.
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Ya these people are "allowed" like 4 days off a year. Like the article says it can be difficult to schedule days off etc.

It really is just about corporate greed, and control. I'm just skeptical of the government stepping in on things like this. Sure you can argue that they were trying to avoid a catastrophe with the supply chain, but it's also coordinated by the workers. The workers finally have some leverage to the tune of 2 billion a day and the government steps in to strike a deal before they can go on strike. A deal that over half of the union members don't like, they are being forced to accept by the government. However you want to look at it "the government" not republican or democrat "the government" sided with the big corporation over the workers. It's a top vs bottom issue, not a left vs right issue.

I will be interested to see if they do pass more legislation about the sick days and time off. This vice article sure makes it seem unlikely the workers are being heard at all. I could see our government doing some sort of Uber deal here where they later pass legislation for sick days, but they make an exception for the rail company like they did for Uber and Lyft, screwing those folks even worse.
 
I couldn’t eat lunch until 2:30 today cuz of work. Thanks a lot stupid Biden
 
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