For asking people to provide simple evidence of what they claim? I'll break soon enough as it's clear nobody can answer. As I have continually said, if the guy was fake and didn't even exist then Pfizer would've addressed that when they claimed they weren't mutating viruses while claiming they are "engineering" viruses in the same sentence.
See... This is the level of discourse (or lack thereof) around here lol. Can't backup their claim with anything but can spend 5 minutes finding a gif that doesn't even make sense as you haven't said anything at all. What went over my head exactly? The part where you said a guy on video doesn't exist and that he's completely made up despite having no evidence or anything to back it up? Who is the guy saying "covid is a cash cow"? A figment of my imagination?
Seems you've made an entire day out of this thread. I think fish was just suggesting taking a step back for a little breather. You seem to have interpreted that as some sort of attack and got all defensive, repeating the same thing you've said in the majority of your posts, which we've all read and understood since the first time you said it.
"For asking people to provide simple evidence of what they claim? I'll break soon enough as it's clear nobody can answer. As I have continually said, if the guy was fake and didn't even exist then Pfizer would've addressed that when they claimed they weren't mutating viruses while claiming they are "engineering" viruses in the same sentence."
He suggested you take a break. You responded "For asking people to provide evidence for what they claim?"
That's the fundamental basis of labor within capitalism. If you mean consumers, Pfizer has prevented millions of hours of suffering and saved thousands of lives.
Pfizer doesn't need my protection. To Pfizer, we are insignificant ants, and you are no more a threat to Pfizer than dog poop on my lawn.
How would we know how Project Veritas faked this video? They have done so many fakes from so many different angles, it's impossible to choose just one.
Mutation happens during reproduction. Engineering involves the direct insertion of a planned piece of code.
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I don't care how simple the evidence. I care how reliable it is. A video from Project Veritas is completely unreliable. You have zero reliable evidence. Therefore, there is nothing to explain nor refute.
But that is very, very far from anything resembling “pretty sufficient evidence”. I don’t understand how you can say that, without knowing much more about the guy who’s spilling the beans. I mean, if he were saying this in a court, he be cross examined about his claims. Look, maybe everything he said before he tried to take it back is true, but you have a notion of what constitutes “sufficient evidence” that, at the least, doesn’t work for me.
And you fail to even the entertain the idea that it is true. Pfizer has not denied that this guy works there nor that he's a higher up official. What you guys are saying seems fabricated and has literally zero evidence and when I simply ask for evidence you all fail to provide anything, literally anything....even you said "don't answer that".
So gain of function... Either way you look at it. Mutating/engineering to make the virus different or in Walkers own words "more potent".
I'm sorry I don't think saving lives by gouging customers is admirable. Hell they are even planning on marking up y'all life saving vaccine 10,000%. This has more to do with pharma lobbying for politicians. Generic drugs are much cheaper but with our politicians who are making a killing, no way.... These companies are corrupt and evil. Life saving drugs... At what cost?
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This is perhaps the most clear example of being set in ones ways because we have a situation where all the evidence is on one side. The guy said what he said and it has been confirmed that he would be in a position to know. There was also a subsequent official release by Pfizer that corroborated some of the most damning initial statements by the guy in the video clip as they tried to downplay the comments. Meanwhile the naysayers have nothing, zero, zilch in terms of evidence and yet are very clearly still convinced being correct. For some, no amount of evidence would be "sufficient" to change from an opinion already held even if the pre-held opinion was based on nothing other than what was wanted to be true.
I'll take the world renown professor, scientist, microbiologist, and a director at Waksman Institute of Microbiology over some guy that's not even recognized for much other than a **** blog. OB you are a smart dude and better than this. This piece has nothing in it other than this guy being a complete moron childishly calling others name that he disagrees with. (See... Guys... This is how conversating works(gameface, thriller, log). You use words and explain your side and your opinions. This is called a counter argument.)Conspiracy theories about monkeypox sound an awful lot like COVID-19
The Biden administration declared monkeypox to be a national public health emergency. Conspiracy theories abound, many of them recycled.
Out of one nutjob's mouth, into your ears.
Most mutations and genetic engineering cause certain types of functions to increase, and other types of functions to decline. For example, increasing distance from the vaccine-covered strains while decreasing infectibility would not be gain-of-function research, although I 'm sure you would cast it that way.
So you hate capitalism.
I appreciate you jumping on the pharmaceuticals-make-too-much-money wagon now, but you're a johnny-come-lately there.
Current formulations of the vaccine will be all-but-useless long before they can go generic. No uses a flu vaccine from 2000.
You mean, like Linus Pauling, who claimed Vitamin C could cure cancer? World-renowned scientists regularly wind up following and popularizing stupid ideas when outside of their expertise. In some circles, it's called "Nobel disease". Ebright isn't an expert on coronaviruses nor epidemiology.
That's why I quoted the part that was relevant.
I don't recall saying Orac is a genius. I never read that Orac considers himself to be genius. He's a skeptic. In many ways, being a skeptic is better than being a genius.
I've read it before. I see it as self-deprecating humor. Do you feel that people who use self-deprecation to express humility are always insane? That would explain so much about you.
I went back to watch the video in comment #349.
Last I heard, there was in increase in cycle length with a mean of less than I day. When we were younger, my wife's period would be delayed by as long as week, or come a week early, depending upon the stressors in our life. Just the tension around getting a pseudo-controversial vaccine could be causing the delay, s opposed to the vaccine itself.
I didn't hear anything damning, expect to those who desperately want to find damning evidence. You brought shadows under a new moon sky.
My claim is that what he said is irrelevant. You have yet to defend the relevance.
Why?
Because one of the main guys at pfizer coming out and saying that the vaccine potentially coming from a lab is important to some. I think it's pretty pivitol so this type of thing can be avoided or if it did come from a lab, stop having companies like pfizer mutating viruse and making them "more potent". The insanity that a guy that helps create the vaccine and openly admits to making the virus more potent in a lab stating he thinks it comes from a lab should be very concerning if you actually care about the virus, not just the political spectrum like you do.
