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Just looking at the list of bigs with >20% usage....I kinda see Bagley with much worse athleticism/rim finishing but way better effort. Shooting? We'll see. I kinda see them in the same role and maybe a similar overall end product with different ways of getting there. Bagley/Hartenstein would be my comp and I do deserve credit because that's only 25% white comparison lol.

Plus usage bigs just aren't that common, and I do not see that as a positive in the same way that 7'5 shooting C's with handles are uncommon.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I mean if you can't find a comp doesn't that tell ya something?
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There's plenty of comps for him....

Olynyk, Markkanen, John Collins. Just about any face up 4 who is versatile. Plus the league is trending towards jumbo sized versatile players. The ecosystem of the NBA is more friendly towards developing but guys with these skillets than it was when KO or Lauri where coming up.

I don't even think he *has* to shoot it at that high of a level to be a positive player. He's a far better defender than he gets credit for and he's a talented passer and ball handler. I think more of his potential lies in improving his body.
 
KqWIN said:
Just looking at the list of bigs with >20% usage....I kinda see Bagley with much worse athleticism/rim finishing but way better effort. Shooting? We'll see. I kinda see them in the same role and maybe a similar overall end product with different ways of getting there. Bagley/Hartenstein would be my comp and I do deserve credit because that's only 25% white comparison lol.

Plus usage bigs just aren't that common, and I do not see that as a positive in the same way that 7'5 shooting C's with handles are uncommon.
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So much of Bagley's success was just overwhelming college players with his athleticism.

Most of Flip success is off his size/coordination combo plus the threat of his shot (even though he has **** poorly, teams still definitely respect it)
 
Elizah Huge said:
Yes, it means he is a unique player and there is not always a one to one comp for every player. What is the comp for Wemby?
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Ralph Sampson... Modern day Kareem... KD stretched the **** out. Wemby's physical characteristics obviously make him unique... what about Flip makes him unique?
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
There's plenty of comps for him....

Olynyk, Markkanen, John Collins. Just about any face up 4 who is versatile. Plus the league is trending towards jumbo sized versatile players. The ecosystem of the NBA is more friendly towards developing but guys with these skillets than it was when KO or Lauri where coming up.

I don't even think he *has* to shoot it at that high of a level to be a positive player. He's a far better defender than he gets credit for and he's a talented passer and ball handler. I think more of his potential lies in improving his body.
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Lauri had shown way better shooting than Flip in college... John was more efficient and a GREAT athlete. Kyle might be a sneaky athlete but not in Collins sphere as an athlete.

I'm just not buying what yall are selling.
 
KqWIN said:
Just looking at the list of bigs with >20% usage....I kinda see Bagley with much worse athleticism/rim finishing but way better effort. Shooting? We'll see. I kinda see them in the same role and maybe a similar overall end product with different ways of getting there. Bagley/Hartenstein would be my comp and I do deserve credit because that's only 25% white comparison lol.

Plus usage bigs just aren't that common, and I do not see that as a positive in the same way that 7'5 shooting C's with handles are uncommon.
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Bagley scored so much more efficiently though. Bigs who don't shoot, don't protect the paint, and aren't able to switch well on the perimeter just have a tough time in the league.
 
I've just been reading his name as 'Flip' this whole time. Had a working at a burger joint joke ready and everything.


Oh wait, you guys are just calling him Flip. Dude should be flipping burgers!
 
as far as filipowski's shooting, he came to duke known as a big who could shoot. then he proceeded to shoot 27% from three. it's going to be very interesting to see what he can become as a shooter. he's definitely not a good long range shooter right now, but he's not totally a non-shooter either.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Bagley scored so much more efficiently though. Bigs who don't shoot, don't protect the paint, and aren't able to switch well on the perimeter just have a tough time in the league.
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Yeah, Bagley was an animal at Duke and honestly he still kinda is at the NBA level inside the paint. Like I said, I think he’s just the most similar in terms of role/output even if the means of getting there are different. Not many 20 MPG offense first time bigs in the NBA and no that is not a good thing for Filip.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
as far as filipowski's shooting, he came to duke known as a big who could shoot. then he proceeded to shoot 27% from three. it's going to be very interesting to see what he can become as a shooter. he's definitely not a good long range shooter right now, but he's not totally a non-shooter either.
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I agree with you here... for me its just that right now the other stuff is not good enough to justify using a first on him until the shooting is proven.
 
why did he play just 16 minutes today? blow out? foul trouble? i have it recorded, but i'm curious why so few minutes - it means i'll get through the game extremely fast since he's the only reason (and whitehead but he hardly plays most of the time) i'm watching.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
why did he play just 16 minutes today? blow out? foul trouble? i have it recorded, but i'm curious why so few minutes - it means i'll get through the game extremely fast since he's the only reason (and whitehead but he hardly plays most of the time) i'm watching.
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Blow out and he sprained his ankle pretty early in the game, but he played through it, but the blowout made it OK to rest him.
 
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