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Roster Building From Here - FA and Summer of 2023

KqWIN said:
His defense has definitely dropped off since he took on a bigger role on offense. I think he’s a little overextended right now as a 27+ usage player. My question on him is whether or not he’s happy with a slightly smaller role on offense with more effort on defense. A lot of guys don’t like to scale down their usage and do more of the dirty work.

I’ve got my eye on the TOR guys. I think if you can sign FVV or Trent Jr you do it and worry about a perfect team/timeline afterwards. Signing then adds a lot of value to our team.

As a side note, I don’t know if Thad is completely cooked (he’s been playing since the stone ages). But I think he would be a nice vet to have off the bench if he’s got anything left. He has Utah ties IIRC.
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I watched Thad play a little this year... he cooked.

I don't know that there is a next "Lauri" but if I was making a list of 10-15 players that could have an unexpected glow up... I'm sure Trent Jr. would be on there. To be clear I don't expect it at all. I think he is fine as is with just some really natural improvement.
 
Trent Jr would basically be a better version of what we had in Malik, right? Not really upside for him to hit another level?
 
The idea of Siakim and Lauri is very intriguing to me. Maybe not a perfect fit, but his talent is enough for me to take him over OG.
 
Coach Ellis said:
I’m sold on Austin Reaves at this point. Offer him whatever his max is (I think it’s $24.5 per year) on day one and see if the Lakers match it. If they do, no big deal. Wasn’t meant to be, and the Lakers are locked into a contract that might be hard to trade in a couple of years.

Assuming the Lakers match, I’m looking to add a player through a trade at a discounted price (like how Portland got Jerami Grant last year) or take on somebody’s bad salary to clear out some cap space for a quality asset coming back. I’d prioritize guys that I want over adding just more assets, but I’m open to both options.

Then I use my leftover space to try to add guys like Yuta Watanabe and Troy Brown on cheap(ish) deals and see if they can carve out a spot in the rotation next year. Maybe look at brining over another top Euro guy that’s looking for a buyout.
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One thing is that Reaves is an awful man defender. He's solid on team defense so he isnt absolutely wrecking your ability to defend, but the guy is a walking target. I've really noticed that from watching the Lakers the past week or so.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Trent Jr would basically be a better version of what we had in Malik, right? Not really upside for him to hit another level?
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More efficient scorer, much better defender, he's 24... so likely no but who knows with that wonky team. I don't think so but I would not have thought Lauri could have this jump either.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
One thing is that Reaves is an awful man defender. He's solid on team defense so he isnt absolutely wrecking your ability to defend, but the guy is a walking target. I've really noticed that from watching the Lakers the past week or so.
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I've noticed this as well.
 
Jingled said:
One NBA executive quoted in this article said he thinks Clarkson gets something in the range of 3 years $40 or $45 million. If that's the case, I definitely think he will be back with the Jazz.

https://heavy.com/sports/los-angeles-lakers/jazz-star-jordan-clarkson-free-agency-trades/
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At that amount he would have value to an aspiring contender looking for a 6th man. That's enough above the MLE that it prices them out of the open market.

I'm fine re-signing Clarkson, but I hope they would have an itchy trigger finger on trading him after re-signing him. I'm just out on committing serious minutes and money to >30 year olds.

What I hope most of all is that the Jazz can execute a dual sign-and-trade with Clarkson and Reaves after the Jazz signal to the Lakers that they have every intention of throwing the bag at Reaves. That way, instead of the Lakers being forced into a lose-lose matching of Reaves, they can take the safer path on a cheaper and shorter deal with Clarkson.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The idea of Siakim and Lauri is very intriguing to me. Maybe not a perfect fit, but his talent is enough for me to take him over OG.
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Agreed. I love his physical profile. Lots of skills. Give him to hardy and watch him bloom
 
NUMBERICA said:
At that amount he would have value to an aspiring contender looking for a 6th man. That's enough above the MLE that it prices them out of the open market.

I'm fine re-signing Clarkson, but I hope they would have an itchy trigger finger on trading him after re-signing him. I'm just out on committing serious minutes and money to >30 year olds.

What I hope most of all is that the Jazz can execute a dual sign-and-trade with Clarkson and Reaves after the Jazz signal to the Lakers that they have every intention of throwing the bag at Reaves. That way, instead of the Lakers being forced into a lose-lose matching of Reaves, they can take the safer path on a cheaper and shorter deal with Clarkson.
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I think sign and trade is the most likely solution on JC… not sure what we end up getting back but that is kinda where I see this heading.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think sign and trade is the most likely solution on JC… not sure what we end up getting back but that is kinda where I see this heading.
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It's kind of the only scenario that would sufficiently explain why he wasn't traded at the deadline. I'm confident the Jazz could've gotten the five 2nds that was the price for every ~MLE vet and it turns out they didn't want him contributing to wins also. I would guess they appraised his value in the Jazz's context being transformed into a different type of asset (I'm sure they're hoping for a protected 1st from somebody or an actual player in return).
 
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