I was referring to we don't get DLo without Conley
I mean I said a piece of a first like 12 times... but its a higher quality first than either one of the ones we gave up so add that to the equation. Its equally ridiculous to think the deal doesn't get done without Mike and that he was a negative.
Lol... he made a difference. He helped one of our stars quite a bit... and honestly helped both of them.
The rest of the stuff set us up for failure... Conley absolutely contributed to our success. Of course other things could have been done but the Conley deal didn't prevent many of those options if any.
Do you know who also helped our stars and contributed to the same amount of playoff series wins? Ricky Rubio. If that’s what made the Conley trade worth it we could have kept Rubio who was dying to come back. We didn’t just give up picks but good players as well. I am not a Jae crowder guy but he went to the finals twice after the Jazz as a key contributor and Grayson turned into a rotation player. The cost for Conley was not cheap, and there’s not much to show for the trade.
His regular season performance was mixed as well as his playoff performance. Some good, some bad, and some injuries. He was a good player but stylistically made any issues you have with Mitchell and Gobert worse.
Of course he contributed in some ways, but if you’re making the argument that it was impossible to find the right guy Conley made it more important to find that guy and also more difficult to acquire that guy because of the assets it cost to get him. The Jazz continued to compound this issue with the way they filled out the rest of the roster.
Again, it wasn’t the death nail. This conversation started with me disagreeing with Conley being the main cause for the previous Jazz failure. There were many worse failures and the situation could have been salved. But I still do not think it was a good idea to invest heavily in such a flawed combo. I didn’t love it back then and with the benefit of hindsight I still do not think it was a great move.