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Trade up? What are you willing to give up?

Ferguson_Mellochill said:
I think they would. He fetched #14 last year and had a promising rookie season. He'd replace Tim Hardaway Jr. What do you think they're going to get for #10?
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If you surveyed people outside of the Jazz bubble, I don't think it's unanimous that he even had a promising rookie season. He had some moments tanking times, but he was also 22 so it was expected that he was "NBA ready".

He's not better than THJ and there's no guarantee he's replacing anyone in a real rotation. Late first fetch real, NBA rotation level caliber players which is what they would be looking for. For the 10th pick they would want so much more than Ochai.
 
I was of the belief that the common opinion of this years draft was that outside of the 1 pick it wasn't loaded with talent?
 
KqWIN said:
If you surveyed people outside of the Jazz bubble, I don't think it's unanimous that he even had a promising rookie season. He had some moments tanking times, but he was also 22 so it was expected that he was "NBA ready".

He's not better than THJ and there's no guarantee he's replacing anyone in a real rotation. Late first fetch real, NBA rotation level caliber players which is what they would be looking for. For the 10th pick they would want so much more than Ochai.
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Ochai shot 36% on 3PAs, finished well at the rim, defended multiple positions and has nowhere near the health issues or contract issues that THJ had. Like I said in my post, I think the Jazz would decline to trade him for #10.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Sexton + #9 might get the Jazz to #6 or even #5, depending on what they take back. I have little confidence that the Jazz see Sexton as a core piece longer term. I think he was a rehabilitation project.
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Don't you think if that were true, they would not have him representing at the lottery? I think Sexton IS the starting point guard next season on this team.I think barring an upgrade via free agency that pushes Sexton to 6th man where he shines , there is little chance a rookie takes it from him at all.
I think if the Jazz feel they need to move up which I doubt, it won't be at 6. I am guessing they will throw 9,16 and the Wolves next unprotected. trying to get into the 4.
If it fails,which it will, they will maybe try moving 16 ,28, and a future Wolves pick with protections , to leap over a couple end of the lottery teams. esp if they think those 2 are seeking the same player.
I doubt Sexton until he proves healthy again is getting them 1 pick higher either
 
NUMBERICA said:
On my board, there is a drop off after 15. But I think there’s a pretty good chance one of Keyonte, Bufkin, GG, or Hawkins “slips” to 16, I would just be pretty pissed if they were all gone there.

The next tier gets kinda murky for me. I do like a ton of players after that but a lot of them feel like wildcards.
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I think it would be really unlikely they are all gone by 16. I guess what matters if you're trading up to 13 is if there's one guy you really want over the others and he will go 14 or 15. Outside of the consensus top 10-11 players, the only guy I'm really dead set on getting is Coulibaly. I don't think he makes it past OKC and TOR. He is right up their alley.

I think if we stay at #16, chances of us getting Bufkin or George is really high. I'm kinda down on that tier of wings outside of Coulibaly, however.
 
Eddie Zero said:
Don't you think if that were true, they would not have him representing at the lottery? I think Sexton IS the starting point guard next season on this team.I think barring an upgrade via free agency that pushes Sexton to 6th man where he shines , there is little chance a rookie takes it from him at all.
I think if the Jazz feel they need to move up which I doubt, it won't be at 6. I am guessing they will throw 9,16 and the Wolves next unprotected. trying to get into the 4.
If it fails,which it will, they will maybe try moving 16 ,28, and a future Wolves pick with protections , to leap over a couple end of the lottery teams. esp if they think those 2 are seeking the same player.
I doubt Sexton until he proves healthy again is getting them 1 pick higher either
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I don't think anyone views Sexton as a natural point guard. I think he's viewed as a sparkplug scoring guard off the bench. Whether he has much trade value is a fair question.

The draft is likely perceived to flatten out after the top 4 or 5 picks. Players like Black, Ausar, Hendricks, Walker have been pretty interchangeable in mocks. Maybe that will change, but the early buzz has been that teams like Orlando, Detroit and Indiana are open to moving off their picks. Getting into the Top 4 is probably a different story.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
I don't think anyone views Sexton as a natural point guard. I think he's viewed as a sparkplug scoring guard off the bench. Whether he has much trade value is a fair question.

The draft is likely perceived to flatten out after the top 4 or 5 picks. Players like Black, Ausar, Hendricks, Walker have been pretty interchangeable in mocks. Maybe that will change, but the early buzz has been that teams like Orlando, Detroit and Indiana are open to moving off their picks. Getting into the Top 4 is probably a different story.
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Sexton thinks he is a point guard that much I have seen. Him proving able to be so will only come if they do as well.
He probably will ask out if Hardy is not going to do that for him. If he is playing off the bench for this team, in a score first role, I agree he won't be here long, but because he won't embrace it if it's a rookie taking the job. Now if they bring in a legit upgrade in free agency he would gladly compete with the guy for the gig.
Sexton appears to be a highly competetive Jimmy Butler type guy. I don't think I would want to face playoff Sexton. We should try to hold onto him long enough to find out/
 
I would trade anyone on the team other than Lauri and a few picks for Scoot.

Trouble is I don't think the Blazers would do it.
 
I like Ochai more than most but if he could net #10 you take it without thinking twice.
 
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