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Jazz draft Taylor Hendricks at 9

sip said:
It has been reported that there were questions about his knees and he didn't interview well. Personally I still would have gone with Cam but we weren't able to see the medicals or the interview that the jazz did with him.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiret...-To-Concerns-Over-Knee-Underwhelming-Workouts
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If it’s true that he wasnt taking work outs seriously then I am glad we passed. We don’t need a cancer like that in the locker room. A kid that doesn’t want to work hard is not Jazz DNA as far as I’m concerned
 
A bunch of smart organizations passed on Cam Whitmore before a dumb one picked him.

That makes me believe there is something severely wrong with him.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
They wanted us to trade up for the guy who might be a good 3 and D wing… Taylor already shoots well so can’t possibly have upside. You have to have mad crossovers and shoot step back threes or rumors that you are growing 2 inches every month or some ****.
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Trade up for someone who might be as good as Hendricks one day and is smaller lol.
 
Elizah Huge said:
I would like to see Hendricks start from day 1 but not sure if that’s going to happen.
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I think it's likely KO still starts to start the season (his passing is a seriously overlooked aspect of the offense working, especially in lineups with one ballhandling guard. Hopefully Hendricks learns a lot and can usurp the position midseason (and KO gets traded for anything we can use down the road).
 
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KqWIN said:
It is indeed not his game and that's the point of contention.
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I don't believe the point of contention is whether he should be lead ballhandler or have a usage rate of 30% or whatever. Simply that the coach didn't really try or at least succeed at prioritizing him getting looks. He was remarkably productive considering that.

You asked the question as to why Brice and Keyonte had high usage rates and Hendricks didn't, but I'm not sure if the question was meant to be preposterous (to be demonstrative of the point) or not. But it was a preposterous question.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I don't believe the point of contention is whether he should have a usage rate of 30% (or whatever) or not. Simply that the coach didn't really try or at least succeed at prioritizing him getting looks. He was remarkably productive considering that.
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The point in contention is why we don't think he has big upside, and the reason why we don't think he has big upside is because he doesn't play with the ball in his hands. I don't think anyone is contesting that he can star in his own role. I'm certainly not.
 
KqWIN said:
I’ve been beating the drum that we don’t really understand “potential” during this draft cycle. I get what people see with Hendricks. He has a really nice looking shot and regularly shows incredibly fears of athleticism on defense and transition. It’s not just the highlight plays. Even in normal defensive rotation you can tell he’s just a level up from everyone else.

Having said that….it is kind of hard to imagine him being a star when watching him. It’s a stark contrast to Keyonte and Brice. Those guys are the centerpiece of their team’s offensive game plan. Hendricks will go long stretches a time where he’s mostly standing around and never touches the ball.

There’s still a chance he can develop the on ball stuff. Mikal Bridges wasn’t much of anything in terms of being a creator and it seems as though he’s turning the corner after several years of progress…but when a guy is barely touching the ball at UCF it does make it much harder to imagine him becoming that guy.
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I mean he is 19 and played 1 year at UCF. What if I told you it barely mattered except it was just a large enough platform to get him drafted as a lottery pick. You could probably learn just as much by watching high school tape. There is not a single player in this draft that has topped out at 19.

I mean the Thompson twins that everyone loves are even a year older than that and not a single person thinks that they are frozen in Amber. Hendricks is playing with the right team to make sure he gets unlocked.
 
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Shad said:
I'm curious who all the hendricks haters would have drafted at 9 then? We tried to move up, the other teams said no, so who do you take at 9?
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I haven't tried to interview Cam Whitmore or sat through one of his workouts, but I would have taken him or Kobe Bufkin ahead of Hendricks probably. I'm kind of shocked that Bilal made it all the way up to 7.

FWIW, I have Bufkin and Keyonte George as essentially equal prospects. It's just a question of what playstyle the Jazz would prefer, and it looks like the Jazz like Keyonte's 'alpha' gene.
 
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Ferguson_Mellochill said:
I haven't tried to interview Cam Whitmore or sat through one of his workouts, but I would have taking him or Kobe Bufkin ahead of Hendricks probably. I'm kind of shocked that Bilal made it all the way up to 7.

FWIW, I have Bufkin and Keyonte George as essentially equal prospects. It's just a question of what playstyle the Jazz would prefer, and it looks like the Jazz like Keyonte's 'alpha' gene.
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Although, I agree with you on Cam. I was REALLY high on Cam (wanted him at 5) but the Jazz did interview him, worked out for him, passed on him twice (so did the Magic) so there has to be something flagged really bad about him
 
framer said:
I mean he is 19 and played 1 year at UCF. What if I told you it barely mattered except it was just a large enough platform to get him drafted as a lottery pick. You could probably learn just as much by watching high school tape. There is not a single player in this draft that has topped out at 19.

I mean the Thompson twins that everyone loves are even a year older than that and not a single person thinks that they are frozen in Amber. Hendricks is playing with the right team to make sure he gets unlocked.
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Of course Hendricks can continue to develop and become a different player. No one ever said he could not get better.

The fact is he did very little with the ball in his hands and that’s why it’s fair to question if he can do more in the NBA. If somebody’s shooting was bad would you say it didn’t matter? Of course not, that’s stupid. If his college season barely mattered, does the good stuff barely matter too? Can’t have it both ways. It matters or it doesn’t.

The reason why we think Hendricks can shoot is because he did it. The reason we don’t think he can play outside of the limited role is because he did not. There are always exceptions to the rule, including the one I highlighted in my post you quoted. Just because someone is 19 does not mean we can’t evaluate their game at 19. If a part of player’s game is bad or rudimentary it’s far to question it going forward. It doesn’t mean they cannot improve, but being young does not mean it will automatically improve either.
 
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stitches said:
Mostly agree with everything here. The thing I will add is - one reason you can imagine him developing some on ball game is the fact that his off-ball skills and defense will likely allow him to play early and with play come opportunities for growth, plus he was drafted high enough that the Jazz will likely be willing to entertain developing some face up moves for him. The other reason for slivers of optimism about his on ball game is the growth he showed this season at UCF. He was ranked out of the top 50 by all of the top recruiting services and was not considered a one and done prospect by anyone and without even having premier coaching at UCF he ended up a top 10 pick. In his film there are flashes of on ball self creation, there is one where he beats everyone's favorite defender Jarace Walker off the dribble and yams it on him. Now they are few and far between but I can see a path to him developing that part of his game... And this will be directly connected to another part of his game where I expect some development - pull up game. Maybe initially nothing fancy - side steps or simple step backs to avoid close outs or punish devense sagging off him.
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Being on the court right away is extremely undervalued when thinking about "potential". 1) It gives you the chance the improve 2) It likely means you have less to improve on. For Hendricks, he will get a huge boost against other prospects because he should be able to contribute right away and have that opportunity for accelerated learning. But as far as the second point, I think he's really rudimentary in terms of his on ball game right now. It doesn't mean he can't improve, but he has a long way to go. It's not quite the same thing as someone like Desmond Bane being sleeper potential pick. He had skills to get on the floor and contribute right away, but his role in the NBA right now as a budding star isn't that much different from his role as a college player.

It could be the case that he's a Mikal Bridges or Jerami Grant who develops this stuff later on in their careers. But realistically speaking I think it's fair to call it a weakness in his game. "Slivers of optimism" is a good term for how I feel about his potential to expand his offensive role in the NBA.
 
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