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What you are saying in literal terms is that you advocate for politically motivated prosecution. If it were about justice being served then the crime is the crime and the system of justice should work the same as it does for every American accused of a crime but you want this prosecution to be different so that it can influence the election.

I would very much like to see justice served and Trump prosecuted for crimes committed but it has to be by the book, completely transparent, and can’t have a whiff of being done for political outcome. It has to be about the crime. It can’t be about the upcoming election. Jack Smith has already said the upcoming election is a motivating factor in his prosecution of the case. That makes me really uneasy.



I can’t answer that without the benefit of 20/20 hindsight. If the results of letting the wheels of justice turn at the rate they do for any other American accused of a crime is to see Trump lose the election before being found guilty, I don’t see that as so bad. If Trump loyalists see Jack Smith’s admission of politically motivated prosecution as the government being irredeemably corrupt thereby making violence the only way of having their voice heard, then that is juice not worth the squeeze. I think many are naïve or too blinded by their hate for Trump to understand that sectarian violence is a possible outcome.

Well duh, of course you want to have a ruling on whether your President is a seditious traitor before he gets in office.
 
What you are saying in literal terms is that you advocate for politically motivated prosecution. If it were about justice being served then the crime is the crime and the system of justice should work the same as it does for every American accused of a crime but you want this prosecution to be different so that it can influence the election.

I would very much like to see justice served and Trump prosecuted for crimes committed but it has to be by the book, completely transparent, and can’t have a whiff of being done for political outcome. It has to be about the crime. It can’t be about the upcoming election. Jack Smith has already said the upcoming election is a motivating factor in his prosecution of the case. That makes me really uneasy.



I can’t answer that without the benefit of 20/20 hindsight. If the results of letting the wheels of justice turn at the rate they do for any other American accused of a crime is to see Trump lose the election before being found guilty, I don’t see that as so bad. If Trump loyalists see Jack Smith’s admission of politically motivated prosecution as the government being irredeemably corrupt thereby making violence the only way of having their voice heard, then that is juice not worth the squeeze. I think many are naïve or too blinded by their hate for Trump to understand that sectarian violence is a possible outcome.

Besides, this prosecution is not politically motivated anyways. We all saw how things transpired. He's guilty AF.
 
Ashli Babbit and Stewart Rhodes were both unarmed on January 6. The next dissatisfaction event could look like a Ukraine-style FPV drone flying to someone’s house at 2AM with enough explosives to destroy the house and the entire family living inside. …And your sentiment is “go for it”?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rDo1QxI260


Unarmed but leading a huge crowd of traitors in an attack on the Capitol. You're telling me those police didn't fear for their lives? Should they have just run away and let the crowd ransack our Captitol? Ashli Babbit deserved what she got. What a ****ing idiot. Don't do the crime if you can't handle the possible outcome.
 
What you are saying in literal terms is that you advocate for politically motivated prosecution. If it were about justice being served then the crime is the crime and the system of justice should work the same as it does for every American accused of a crime but you want this prosecution to be different so that it can influence the election.

Nope. Blame the Supreme Court, not my likes or dislikes.

“Since Congress first conferred such authority as part of its far broader expansion of certiorari jurisdiction in the Judiciary Act of 1925 (the so-called “Judges’ Bill”), the Supreme Court has used its power to grant “cert before judgment” sparingly. As the current version of the court’s Rule 11 emphasizes, cert before judgment will be granted “only upon a showing that the case is of such imperative public importance as to justify deviation from normal appellate practice and to require immediate determination in this Court.” The leading Supreme Court treatise, Supreme Court Practice, reinforces the rarity of such relief: “The public interest in a speedy determination must be exceptional … to warrant skipping the court of appeals in this fashion.” The most well-known examples prove the point — from the Nazi saboteurs’ case during World War II; to the Youngstown steel seizure case in 1952; to the Watergate tapes case in 1974; to the Iranian hostage dispute in 1981. In all of those cases, not only were the questions presented of the utmost importance, but time was of the essence, as well.”
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“Questions presented of the utmost importance”? Check. “Time was of the essence, as well”. Check.

Note the key point: “As the current version of the court’s Rule 11 emphasizes, cert before judgment will be granted “only upon a showing that the case is of such imperative public importance as to justify deviation from normal appellate practice and to require immediate determination in this Court.” The leading Supreme Court treatise, Supreme Court Practice, reinforces the rarity of such relief: “The public interest in a speedy determination must be exceptional … to warrant skipping the court of appeals in this fashion.” I’m thinking the Supreme Court saw this trial as meeting those criteria.

I believe this present case meets the criteria the Supreme Court is likely using in this case, and for pretty obvious reasons. If any trial in the history of this nation meets that criteria, surely it is this one. BTW, as far as influencing the election, so far the indictments don’t seem to have hurt Trump at all, and I really can’t say if the trial in Washington will hurt him or help him in the 2024 election.

 
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LOL stepping on every rake I set down.

Now he’s defending Babbit! Oh my LOL

Keep digging
 
Ya if trump is innocent should he love what Jack Smith is trying to do. Trump should be cheering him on.

Show everyone you're innocent before the election! Get a nice big boost!

If he is guilty then yes, he probably isn't in any rush to go to trial.



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Exactly this
 

“A recent filing in the Special Counsel's DC case against Donald Trump shows that the White House cell phones used by Trump leading up to and on January 6th are in the DOJ's possession with data that'll support the government's case against him. Direct messages in social networking apps, texts, images, and call logs are there to show what the Orange Menace was up to”.
 

“A recent filing in the Special Counsel's DC case against Donald Trump shows that the White House cell phones used by Trump leading up to and on January 6th are in the DOJ's possession with data that'll support the government's case against him. Direct messages in social networking apps, texts, images, and call logs are there to show what the Orange Menace was up to”.

Great news if he was using that phone, though you'd think the evidence is compelling enough without it.
 

“A recent filing in the Special Counsel's DC case against Donald Trump shows that the White House cell phones used by Trump leading up to and on January 6th are in the DOJ's possession with data that'll support the government's case against him. Direct messages in social networking apps, texts, images, and call logs are there to show what the Orange Menace was up to”.
You mean that not all politicians smash their phones with hammers or use BleachBit to remove all traces of information after getting a subpoena?
 
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