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I think the pendulum is swinging slightly back to position basketball. It's becoming clear you just can't completely ignore PG/C and do the 4-5 wing thing
 
I think this says more about MIN than PHX to be honest. They were not a team built for the regular season, but they still won a ton of games in a tough west. I guess the other side of that is that they were supposed to be built for the playoffs, but I think this MIN is playing at an extremely high level. DEN vs MIN might be for the title.
 
infection said:
I assumed everyone had Amazon Prime. It makes it a hell of a lot easier on me because I don’t subscribe to anything that gets the national network games.
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Don't worry, it'll be an add-on subscription for $14.99 a month so you can experience the same frustration as everyone else!
 
George W said:
I’m not sure I’ve ever see opinion flip so hard on a trade in my entire life. From “one of the worst trades of all time” to “the Wolves may win the Finals for the first time, Ainge got fleeced”.

They’re right. I think in hindsight all of us are starting to think that Donovan alone should have been the one traded. Rudy’s reputation got smeared for trash defence from his supporting cast. The zeal for picks sent our best PG and our best defending PG to Minnesota. The playoff losses made us not realize how successful a Rudy team could be. Minnesota saw it, and right now they present the only threat in the playoffs to the Denver Nuggets. Personally I have them as getting to the Finals from the West. We will see what happens in the East.

- George
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FWIW I expressed the dichotomous opinion that it was both one of the most lop-sided trades in league history AND that the wolves would likely have enough to compete. In fact, as a Rudy fan, I'm incredibly happy for him to have that chance and hoped that was the case, in addition to hoping Ainge would know how to bake this cake with all the prime ingredients he just got.


But the part that is beginning to be disheartening is that it's beginning to look like Ainge might be the chef on the cooking competition show who gets handed all the best ingredients, then we find out he can't make toast to save his life and we all just know he's going down spectacularly in the final tasting.


Let's hope Ainge isn't that guy.
 
George W said:
I think in hindsight all of us are starting to think that Donovan alone should have been the one traded. Rudy’s reputation got smeared for trash defence from his supporting cast. The zeal for picks sent our best PG and our best defending PG to Minnesota. The playoff losses made us not realize how successful a Rudy team could be. Minnesota saw it, and right now they present the only threat in the playoffs to the Denver Nuggets. Personally I have them as getting to the Finals from the West. We will see what happens in the East.
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I don’t think this is a ‘hindsight is 20/20’ scenario, even if it was a narrative most Jazz fans came around to. Everyone knew about Rudy’s value and everyone knew about Quin’s mismanagement and the Donovan issues but suppressed those feelings. When we watched the same thing happen in the post season for the third year in a row, Jazz fans took that trauma and tried to deal with it by listening to Twitter and casuals and embraced movements from a new GM who lives in that world.
 
The trade looks good now. Next year it may not. All it takes is a couple of injuries at the right time and we will get some more lottery picks
 
Does Oneeye post any more? A hat tip to him as he sniffed out DM's warts first. If the Jazz shipped DM and kept everyone else where would we be?
 
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