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Good to see Biden call out Trump. And Marjorie Taylor Greene. Not that MAGA cares…


What a sicko!




 

 
And now this….


Federal emergency response workers operating in North Carolina's Rutherford County in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene were told to evacuate on Saturday over concerns that an "armed militia" was threatening workers in the area, it has been reported.

An official with the U.S. Forest Service, which is supporting recovery efforts along with the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), sent an message to numerous federal agencies at around 1 p.m. on Saturday warning that FEMA has advised all federal responders in Rutherford County to "stand down and evacuate the county immediately," The Washington Post reported.

National Guard troops had come across two trucks of "armed militia saying they were out hunting FEMA," the email said. "The IMTs [incident management teams] have been notified and are coordinating the evacuation of all assigned personnel in that county."
 
And now this….


Federal emergency response workers operating in North Carolina's Rutherford County in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene were told to evacuate on Saturday over concerns that an "armed militia" was threatening workers in the area, it has been reported.

An official with the U.S. Forest Service, which is supporting recovery efforts along with the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), sent an message to numerous federal agencies at around 1 p.m. on Saturday warning that FEMA has advised all federal responders in Rutherford County to "stand down and evacuate the county immediately," The Washington Post reported.

National Guard troops had come across two trucks of "armed militia saying they were out hunting FEMA," the email said. "The IMTs [incident management teams] have been notified and are coordinating the evacuation of all assigned personnel in that county."
Good thing they are well-armed. Seems like a well-armed militia, if completely unregulated. What the **** is wrong with people?
 
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And now this….


Federal emergency response workers operating in North Carolina's Rutherford County in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene were told to evacuate on Saturday over concerns that an "armed militia" was threatening workers in the area, it has been reported.

An official with the U.S. Forest Service, which is supporting recovery efforts along with the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), sent an message to numerous federal agencies at around 1 p.m. on Saturday warning that FEMA has advised all federal responders in Rutherford County to "stand down and evacuate the county immediately," The Washington Post reported.

National Guard troops had come across two trucks of "armed militia saying they were out hunting FEMA," the email said. "The IMTs [incident management teams] have been notified and are coordinating the evacuation of all assigned personnel in that county."
Okay. Who was this U.S. Forest Service employee? Who were the National Guard troops? Why is there no evidence of this interaction other than one email from a mystery person who admits he wasn't there?


In other news, it is the four year anniversary of the government lying about Hunter Biden's laptop being a Russian disinformation operation.
 
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It needs to be noted, for those who did not realize it, that Gov. Ron DeSantis is a moron:


And he has decided to double down and confirm his status as a moron:


But don’t pay any attention to DeSantis. If anyone expects him to have the balls to admit he’s wrong, and has been all along, please don’t hold your breath. No, that’s not how it works. Climate change denial is an integral part of the fictional alternative reality being spun by MAGA.

To the slow to learn, I hear you, and you’re every bit as dumb as DeSantis: “Now put it all together: Hot water for power, moist air for heavy rain, and rising seas for the massive storm surge. Can you see now how Helene was a creation of our altered climate, just as surely as the Creature was built by Dr. Frankenstein?

None of this should be a surprise, by the way. Federal scientists predicted all this 10 years ago“.


“When I have questions relating to climate change in Florida, the first person I call is usually David Zierden, who serves as our state climatologist. He runs the Florida Climate Center in Tallahassee.

David Zierden, Florida’s state climatologist, via Florida Climate Center


“I am pleased to report that our duly elected dimwits have not deleted his job the way they foolishly deleted the words from the law.

He told me there’s little doubt among scientists that climate change played a major role in making Helene such a monster. It did so in three ways:

Bear in mind that hurricanes draw their power from the heat of the water they pass over, and the oceans have been soaking up much of the heat from the steady warming of our globe.

“Sea surface temperatures in the Atlantic, Caribbean, and the Gulf of Mexico are all running at or near record levels this year, just as they did last year,” Zierden said. Meanwhile, the Gulf’s famous loop current is bringing up deeper warm water too, he said.

The heat in the ocean makes the storms rapidly intensify. How rapidly? This is the way The New York Times put it: “In less than a day, Helene transformed from a Category 1 hurricane Thursday morning to a Category 4 storm on Thursday afternoon, which would make it the strongest ever to hit the Big Bend coast of Florida.”

The warmth also makes the atmosphere extremely moist. That’s how we wind up with storms like Helene dumping so much more rain, he explained.

“That’s a piece of what’s happened in North Carolina,” Zierden said.

Finally, he said, there’s the role that the rising sea level plays in making the storm surge so much worse.

“When everyone’s talking about the record storm surge,” he told me, “at least a foot of that is caused by sea level rise.”

Now put it all together: Hot water for power, moist air for heavy rain, and rising seas for the massive storm surge. Can you see now how Helene was a creation of our altered climate, just as surely as the Creature was built by Dr. Frankenstein?

None of this should be a surprise, by the way. Federal scientists predicted all this 10 years ago.

During hurricanes and tropical storms, “homes and infrastructure in low areas are increasingly prone to flooding,” that decade-old report notes. “As a result, insurance costs will increase and people will move away from vulnerable areas.”

When we talk about the people Helene turned into paupers or worse, we shouldn’t call them “storm victims.” We should call them “climate victims.” And when the survivors move, we should call them “climate refugees,” because that’s what they are, just like the folks on islands that no longer offer enough dry land to live on.

But as Tom Petty told us, we don’t have to live like a refugee
 
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It needs to be noted, for those who did not realize it, that Gov. Ron DeSantis is a moron
You do understand that Hurricane Milton and Hurricane Helene are weather, not climate, right? In your pronouncements on who wasn't smart, you did catch how your linked articles all used the terms incorrectly, right?
 



 
It needs to be noted, for those who did not realize it, that Gov. Ron DeSantis is a moron:


And he has decided to double down and confirm his status as a moron:


But don’t pay any attention to DeSantis. If anyone expects him to have the balls to admit he’s wrong, and has been all along, please don’t hold your breath. No, that’s not how it works. Climate change denial is an integral part of the fictional alternative reality being spun by MAGA.

To the slow to learn, I hear you, and you’re every bit as dumb as DeSantis: “Now put it all together: Hot water for power, moist air for heavy rain, and rising seas for the massive storm surge. Can you see now how Helene was a creation of our altered climate, just as surely as the Creature was built by Dr. Frankenstein?

None of this should be a surprise, by the way. Federal scientists predicted all this 10 years ago“.


“When I have questions relating to climate change in Florida, the first person I call is usually David Zierden, who serves as our state climatologist. He runs the Florida Climate Center in Tallahassee.

David Zierden, Florida’s state climatologist, via Florida Climate Center


“I am pleased to report that our duly elected dimwits have not deleted his job the way they foolishly deleted the words from the law.

He told me there’s little doubt among scientists that climate change played a major role in making Helene such a monster. It did so in three ways:

Bear in mind that hurricanes draw their power from the heat of the water they pass over, and the oceans have been soaking up much of the heat from the steady warming of our globe.

“Sea surface temperatures in the Atlantic, Caribbean, and the Gulf of Mexico are all running at or near record levels this year, just as they did last year,” Zierden said. Meanwhile, the Gulf’s famous loop current is bringing up deeper warm water too, he said.

The heat in the ocean makes the storms rapidly intensify. How rapidly? This is the way The New York Times put it: “In less than a day, Helene transformed from a Category 1 hurricane Thursday morning to a Category 4 storm on Thursday afternoon, which would make it the strongest ever to hit the Big Bend coast of Florida.”

The warmth also makes the atmosphere extremely moist. That’s how we wind up with storms like Helene dumping so much more rain, he explained.

“That’s a piece of what’s happened in North Carolina,” Zierden said.

Finally, he said, there’s the role that the rising sea level plays in making the storm surge so much worse.

“When everyone’s talking about the record storm surge,” he told me, “at least a foot of that is caused by sea level rise.”

Now put it all together: Hot water for power, moist air for heavy rain, and rising seas for the massive storm surge. Can you see now how Helene was a creation of our altered climate, just as surely as the Creature was built by Dr. Frankenstein?

None of this should be a surprise, by the way. Federal scientists predicted all this 10 years ago.

During hurricanes and tropical storms, “homes and infrastructure in low areas are increasingly prone to flooding,” that decade-old report notes. “As a result, insurance costs will increase and people will move away from vulnerable areas.”

When we talk about the people Helene turned into paupers or worse, we shouldn’t call them “storm victims.” We should call them “climate victims.” And when the survivors move, we should call them “climate refugees,” because that’s what they are, just like the folks on islands that no longer offer enough dry land to live on.

But as Tom Petty told us, we don’t have to live like a refugee
Yep. So many idiots with their heads in the sand.

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Of course DeSantis is better defined by climate change denialism as a political stance. He has to deny reality to sustain viability at all in the MAGA movement. And that movement’s overall willingness to be detached from reality on various fronts. Science. History. Recent history. Amazingly irrational movement MAGA. Certainly didn’t invent climate change denialism, but a movement built around alternative realities, and climate change denialism fits it, and Trump’s drill baby drill vision.

Hurricanegate? That’s what it will be called if Fox News decides to run with the whacko conspiracies in “hey, maybe there’s something to this!” mode. Yeah, I’m kidding. I guess.

MAGA. Crazy irrational cult-like movements. The kind that people look back on, stunned, and most often would rather forget.

Anyway…

 
Here's some cheery news:

Scientists warn of 'societal collapse' on Earth with worsening climate situation​

Story by Ayeesha Walsh
• 14h • 2 min read


 
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