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Deni has been crazy good. DIdnt really expect him to reach this level of play. He's got another 3 years on an incredible contract.

Kind of an interesting question as to whether he was worth it for the Blazers since he has made it impossible for them to truly tank.

Which is why The Wheel should exist. Teams should not have to question if adding talent is a good or bad long-term strategy. In a just world cream rises to the top through smart transactions, trades, and signings and draft picks are evenly distributed.
 
Step-Back Lauri said:
I read about the Grizzlies Jenkins gate from forums and fans, and it seems some say that Jenkins was regularly suggested plays in games by the assistant Iisalo (and being ignored), and players were many times taking his side which caused tension. So it might be that Iisalo just in under one season became players favorite, and the GM, feeling pressure from the ownership to succeed, pulled the plug and did what might make the players more happier and maybe it'll lead to improved results.
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Memphis did a pretty radical offense change this season. They barely run PNR and their best player (which I guess is arguable given JJJ) is primary a PNR player.

It was working out really well. I know they were sliding recently, but I didnt think it was *that* bad.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
With Giddey I would just beware of paying him big money based on his post AS numbers which are crazy.

Giddey's career March splits are pretty hilarious. 18/8/7 60% TS. 53/40 shooting splits. This March 22.5/10/10 63% TS 52.5/41 shooting splits. All I'm saying is pay for calendar year Giddey not March Giddey or you will regret it.
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I’ve always been cynical about his potential mainly bc of the shooting. But it’s 38 % on 3s for the whole year. His career 3 pt has gone 26, 32,33 and 38
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Memphis did a pretty radical offense change this season. They barely run PNR and their best player (which I guess is arguable given JJJ) is primary a PNR player.

It was working out really well. I know they were sliding recently, but I didnt think it was *that* bad.
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And as they were sliding, Jenkins started going back on the offense.

The Griz FO put Jenkins on notice in the summer by firing all his assistants and bringing new ones in - Iisalo especially.

So now it's on Iisalo to prove his offense is a winning one.
 
I think Ja will be traded before his contract ends, but I also do not want to be the team that trades for Ja.

It’s not 1:1, but I think MEM is going to be making their Don/Rudy decision soon. Don’t think they’ll bottom out like we did.
 
KqWIN said:
I think Ja will be traded before his contract ends, but I also do not want to be the team that trades for Ja.

It’s not 1:1, but I think MEM is going to be making their Don/Rudy decision soon. Don’t think they’ll bottom out like we did.
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Then it's basically a repeat of the Fox/Mike Brown situation. A team trying so desperately to keep their star player happy only to have him traded a few days later. ****. It's basically another Sloan/Dwill isn't it?
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Deni has been crazy good. DIdnt really expect him to reach this level of play. He's got another 3 years on an incredible contract.

Kind of an interesting question as to whether he was worth it for the Blazers since he has made it impossible for them to truly tank.

Which is why The Wheel should exist. Teams should not have to question if adding talent is a good or bad long-term strategy. In a just world cream rises to the top through smart transactions, trades, and signings and draft picks are evenly distributed.
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Don't think any team will be mad about having Deni on their team. The guy can shoot, pass and defend which basically makes him a fit to any system on any team. I didn't throw out the Flagg comparison out of nowhere. Deni gives Portland a solid foundation to build on, especially having him locked on a super affordable deal through 2028. Now they are only one good draft away from getting out of rebuild and ready to compete.
 
jom2003 said:
Don't think any team will be mad about having Deni on their team. The guy can shoot, pass and defend which basically makes him a fit to any system on any team. I didn't throw out the Flagg comparison out of nowhere. Deni gives Portland a solid foundation to build on, especially having him locked on a super affordable deal through 2028. Now they are only one good draft away from getting out of rebuild and ready to compete.
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And they will likely never get another shot at top tier talent...
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
And they will likely never get another shot at top tier talent...
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Just need to get lucky. At the moment they still have 20% chance at a top 4 pick just by lottery odds alone. Not to mention the chance of finding a gem even in late lottery. This year's draft is like a complete crapshoot outside of top 2.
 
Step-Back Lauri said:
I read about the Grizzlies Jenkins gate from forums and fans, and it seems some say that Jenkins was regularly suggested plays in games by the assistant Iisalo (and being ignored), and players were many times taking his side which caused tension. So it might be that Iisalo just in under one season became players favorite, and the GM, feeling pressure from the ownership to succeed, pulled the plug and did what might make the players more happier and maybe it'll lead to improved results.
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Some of the talking heads say that when Grizzlies hired Iisalo and Noah LaRoche Jenkins was alteady on the clock and they wanted to assess and groom those two before mqking the change.

Apparently Wizards were also aggressively courting Iisalo so the FO may have given "a wink" about possible upcoming vacancies during the hiring process...
 
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