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Charlie Kirk shot at UVU event

Anyone know why Kirk liked to use that America colored SS Nazi symbol?
It's called a Schutzstaffel.
 
No one is arguing that he was a good or bad person. I’m not interested in that. I’m interested In the hateful and extremist political rhetoric that folks like Kirk proudly spew into the political space and then refuse to take any responsibility for its consequences. This needs to end. Folks like Trump and Kirk serve hate then demand tolerance and empathy for when that hate bites them in the ***. Upset about being burned today? Well, turn off the damn blow torch you’re holding.
Brain dead retarded take. Anyone can justify violence like this. Do we really think that justifying violence against those we disagree with is the path forward? Either you can condemn it or you can justify it. I’m not surprised the stance thriller the Nazi sympathizer is taking here. Psychopathic.
 
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Compare this to some of the awful rhetoric on the right from when the Minnesota politicians were killed. Or from when Paul Pelosi was beaten. Or from when _____ (enter any recent school shooting, cop beating up a black person, and ICE deportation of an innocent brown person).

Anyone else remember when Trump accused Pelosi of being beaten by his “gay lover?” Yes, we need to tone down the vile rhetoric. But it starts at the top!
 
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Couldn't read past page two due to the hate and neurotic comments. He was shot by a rooftop assassin, not an out of control protestor. these type of people will get their guns whether it is legal or not. he openly went against the left just like President Trump and he got shot just like President Trump did. it was declared a political assassination by the authorities. do i agree with all the ways that President Trump does things? no, but that's another discussion. if the response to stating one's opinion is assassination killing then this is no longer a free country.
 
Couldn't read past page two due to the hate and neurotic comments. He was shot by a rooftop assassin, not an out of control protestor. these type of people will get their guns whether it is legal or not. he openly went against the left just like President Trump and he got shot just like President Trump did. it was declared a political assassination by the authorities. do i agree with all the ways that President Trump does things? no, but that's another discussion. if the response to stating one's opinion is assassination killing then this is no longer a free country.

Or... It was an inside job by the right to plunge us into further division. It worked once when Trumpdy Dumpty had to wear a maxipad on his ear for about 72 hours, why not do it again? See, we can engage in conspiracy theories too. In other words, you don't know ****.
 
Couldn't read past page two due to the hate and neurotic comments. He was shot by a rooftop assassin, not an out of control protestor. these type of people will get their guns whether it is legal or not. he openly went against the left just like President Trump and he got shot just like President Trump did. it was declared a political assassination by the authorities. do i agree with all the ways that President Trump does things? no, but that's another discussion. if the response to stating one's opinion is assassination killing then this is no longer a free country.
Yep. Just like what happened to the Minnesota Democratic politicians. The killer had a list of left politicians and targets (planned Parenthood) to assassinate.
Only difference I can see is that planned Parenthood and those Democratic politicians weren't using thier platforms to go around and spread hateful ideologies and intentionally try to stir up trouble.
 
Yep. Just like what happened to the Minnesota Democratic politicians. The killer had a list of left politicians and targets (planned Parenthood) to assassinate.
Only difference I can see is that planned Parenthood and those Democratic politicians weren't using thier platforms to go around and spread hateful ideologies and intentionally try to stir up trouble.
Excellent post.
 


"A young conservative criticized Charlie Kirk, founder and president of conservative organization Turning Point USA on Monday over "toxic leadership."

According to Turning Point's website, which Kirk, a supporter of former President Donald Trump, founded, the organization is the largest and fastest-growing conservative youth activist organization.

In an opinion piece published by the Washington Examiner on Monday titled "Turning Point is harming the conservative movement," Ben Rothove, a conservative and fellow at the publication, discussed Turning Point and its founder as he pointed towards controversies surrounding the organization and Kirk, adding that if "toxic leadership" continues the path the organization is heading "will need to be purged."
 
I think my voting history indicates that I am pretty much a moderate as my ballots usually are about 60% republican and 40% democrat. I vote for the person, not the party. Since people on this thread want to bring everything back to presidential politics, I didn't like either candidate this time. One was way too harsh and needs to know when to shut up, but the other was completely incompetent. Lose/lose situation. Either way would go badly. Either way, it is sick and wrong to murder anyone due to political views and then celebrate their death as being justified or deserved.
The funny thing is, and what really makes it ironic, is that Charlie Kirk literally said it's justified to have dead children, among others, to maintain our 2nd amendment rights. He justified school shootings this way. With his own words, he would view his own death as a necessary evil for having the 2nd amendment rights we have. Do his followers believe what he said, or only as long as people they don't like or don't know are the ones being "sacrificed"?
 
Anyone here go to UVU? It’s been a few years since I studied there. Where was this guy perched? The triangle there isn’t that big. He had to have been on the rooftop on the Sorenson building or Science Building.
My daughter and son-in-law went there. We haven't had a chance to discuss it yet from this viewpoint, but I'll ask them when I get a chance.
 
Anyone here go to UVU? It’s been a few years since I studied there. Where was this guy perched? The triangle there isn’t that big. He had to have been on the rooftop on the Sorenson building or Science Building.
They have a video of a guy laying down on a building
 
“Now look at what you made me do! Now I’m gonna go full Nazi on you!”

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Love the ignorance. RICO is not a tool for banning anything, let alone a political party. It is a class of criminal offense.

But I say F it! Ban the democratic party using RICO for the killing of a political social media influencer. And at the same time ban the Republican party for the assassination of Democratic politicians earlier this year.

No more parties!
 
The funny thing is, and what really makes it ironic, is that Charlie Kirk literally said it's justified to have dead children, among others, to maintain our 2nd amendment rights. He justified school shootings this way. With his own words, he would view his own death as a necessary evil for having the 2nd amendment rights we have. Do his followers believe what he said, or only as long as people they don't like or don't know are the ones being "sacrificed"?
Also. in a town hall, some Republican said in response to people telling him that people are going to die because of the cuts to Medicaid that "We all die eventually." Or something to that effect.

This just happened to be when Charlie Kirk died.
 
Don't go searching for this on Twitter. The video is brutal. Pretty obvious from the amount of blood released in the first 5 seconds that there is no way he survives it. Aren't we all so glad Twitter became a ****ing cesspool under Musk so these things have a safe haven in their uncensored brutality? **** Musk. Kirk's family does not need to see this **** plastered all over Twitter.
 
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