The Official Trade Paul Millsap Thread

[Chad Feldheimer]

Paul Millsap for Darren Collison maybe I can't think of anything right now. Collison' defence sucks though.

Maybe you could land Collison on the cheap. Hell Dallas benched him for Derek Goddamn Fisher, who proceeded to show 1-8. Wth is Dallas thinking?

 

[addictionary]

It's time to switch things up and Paul is stinking it up right now. We need to make room for our new guys and pass the rings to someone else.

totally. I think sap will go first since the start of the season. and then big al will follow. that's the year things really find their way around for the jazz.

 

[bozmansblues]

We really should do a trade for bledsoe shouldnt we. But that would mean that we will have 3 ex-clipper pg's. BUt bledsoe is a much more pure pg than the two we have now.

Over the last 3 years, it has become apparent that milsapp just isnt a starter in the nba - sure he can fill that role for a short period, and do it well, but he cannot sustain it for long periods. In the end, his undersize just catches up against him, especially when he is playing agst opposition starters. He really should go back to the bench, and jus try to dominate the second teams.

 

[Hekate]

Maybe you could land Collison on the cheap. Hell Dallas benched him for Derek Goddamn Fisher, who proceeded to show 1-8. Wth is Dallas thinking?

Rick Carlisle is a good coach and I don't think he would bench Collison for no reason. His stats are not good with his poor defence and he is at best on par with Mo.

 

[orangello]

Rick Carlisle is a good coach and I don't think he would bench Collison for no reason. His stats are not good with his poor defence and he is at best on par with Mo.

But much cheaper and seems to have less of an ego. Another positive is that he is as much of a vet as Favors/Hayward.

 

[sepanol]

What about we trade millsap for some good assets, and then trade jefferson to get him back, cauz jefferson isn't worth a ****

 

[Hekate]

But much cheaper and seems to have less of an ego. Another positive is that he is as much of a vet as Favors/Hayward.

Yeah, cheaper and younger but he didn't really improve over the years and has a declining %FG.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Or his value comes back down to earth and the Jazz have found a path to both re-sign him and also eventually bring him off the bench.

We could still definitely trade the guy that has never been good at basketball, though.

I am sincerely interested. What would you pay Paul, if you were GM?

 

[orangello]

I am sincerely interested. What would you pay Paul, if you were GM?

I know this question was not posed to me but I will answer anyway. I would pay Millsap slightly more than Brandon Bass. Take it or leave it Pauley.

 

[blackham9258]

I think Millsap is good value at $7 to $7.5. Once you hit $8 to $8.5 you start to get on thinner ice. At this point you say okay we will go 4 years at $7.5, but only 3 at $8.5...

However, once it hits $9, 9.5, 10, 10.5, or 11 you have to start looking at 2 years or walk away.

 

[Dr. Jones]

$7MM Tops. Anything else is homerism.

 

[orangello]

$7MM Tops. Anything else is homerism.

So I just looked up Bass' pay. $6,000,000 $6,450,000 $6,900,000. I think we are on the same page.

 

[Dr. Jones]

^^^ Yeah ... I know it hurts. It sucks to 'discover' a player and then have to trade him/let him go.

To win, we have to properly valuate players.

 

[orangello]

Two years ago I would have said that Millsap is the best undersized PF in the league by a long shot. As of today, he might be the best but not by much. Glen Davis and Brandon Bass are either getting better or Millsap is getting worse.

 

[orangello]

^^^ Yeah ... I know it hurts. It sucks to 'discover' a player and then have to trade him/let him go.

To win, we have to properly valuate players.

I agree with this but I would only add that you have to develop talent as well. Favors and Kanter seem to have some high value but I think that if we wait until next year to really give them a chance it might be too late.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Two years ago I would have said that Millsap is the best undersized PF in the league by a long shot. As of today, he might be the best but not by much. Glen Davis and Brandon Bass are either getting better or Millsap is getting worse.

I have always been a Davis fan .. but I think they are vastly different players.

 

[orangello]

I have always been a Davis fan .. but I think they are vastly different players.

Not when they first got to the league. They were hustle players that rebounded well when they were on the floor. Davis seems to still have that going for him while I feel like Millsap has become a slight diva.

 

[blackham9258]

Patrick Patterson is now showing backup PF potential: Millsap is the best of the lot. Big Baby, Bass, Patterson.... notice that all of them are starters but ought to be bench players. That is why their teams are stuck in mediocrity.

 

[orangello]

Patrick Patterson is now showing backup PF potential: Millsap is the best of the lot. Big Baby, Bass, Patterson.... notice that all of them are starters but ought to be bench players. That is why their teams are stuck in mediocrity.

Great point. I might add that one of those is also playing with an elite PG.

 

[billyshelby]

WAY too early to talk about trading Sap.