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Following potential 2013 draftees

We need a LEADER.
We need a PG with a strong bbIQ.
A PG that can read a defense, get into the gaps, and have the vision to make the pass in traffic.
A PG that is not a liability on defense.
ServIceable shot.

So I'm less concerned with them being a lockdown defender or dead-eye shot, as much as I am the first three items listed above.
 
PKM said:
We need a LEADER.
We need a PG with a strong bbIQ.
A PG that can read a defense, get into the gaps, and have the vision to make the pass in traffic.
A PG that is not a liability on defense.
ServIceable shot.

So I'm less concerned with them being a lockdown defender or dead-eye shot, as much as I am the first three items listed above.
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You basically just described Rondo and a few other elite PGs. As you have mentioned several times, there is no one like that until next seasons draft. Right?
 
orangello said:
You basically just described Rondo and a few other elite PGs. As you have mentioned several times, there is no one like that until next seasons draft. Right?
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I think there is potential in this draft, for sure, but this year marks the end of the PG drought and there are a half dozen high schoolers right now I'd draft, right now, above any in the draft.

For the record, I was pimping Irving in the 2012 thread, but he was obvious to most.
 
PKM said:
I think there is potential in this draft, for sure, but this year marks the end of the PG drought and there are a half dozen high schoolers right now I'd draft, right now, above any in the draft.

For the record, I was pimping Irving in the 2012 thread, but he was obvious to most.
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When are you not pimping? I thought that is how you made your money.
 
In terms of our players' talents and abilities, the Jazz aren't well-defined enough to say whether a pass-first PG is a MUST. I can see our young core thriving with a Tony Parker-ish hunter who attacks relentlessly. I can also see them benefiting from a great set-up man.

Perhaps the right way to think about breaking the tie is to emphasize which type of PG would be best for Corbin and all his baggage. Pass-first seems safer?
 
Well I think the Jazz offense (half-court) runs better when the PG sets up the offense. I agree that Hayward can help with ball movement but during crunch time you need a PG to run the offense. I am closer to agreeing with PKM on this matter. I think the Jazz are much better when the ball moves but they need a captain to steer the ship and that usually is the PG.
 
cowhide said:
Well I think the Jazz offense (half-court) runs better when the PG sets up the offense. I agree that Hayward can help with ball movement but during crunch time you need a PG to run the offense. I am closer to agreeing with PKM on this matter. I think the Jazz are much better when the ball moves but they need a captain to steer the ship and that usually is the PG.
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Totally. I think many here are more grasping at straws and have almost already forgotten what it's like to have a true PG rather than someone who can simply handle the ball, make a few drives, and make a few passes.
 
I know people hate it when I bring up Calipari, but as he says, "I think the game is basically positionless, except the PG spot.
 
orangello said:
Here is just a thought for everyone, but do we need a pass first PG?

Hear me out. Watching this team over the last couple of years has showed me a few things. One of those things is that the offense runs about 1,000,000 times better when Hayward is running it. Lately Hayward has displayed a very robust offensive games that helps his passing even more.

My point in all of this is that maybe we don't need a PG that needs the ball in his hands a lot. Maybe he doesn't need to be the best pass first PG in the draft. Instead I propose that the Jazz look for a PG that has a reliable outside shot but that can also play average or above average defense.

Thoughts?
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This is the way of the future in my opinion. You need a couple of creators on offense but they don't need to be PG's. IMO we need to evaluate PG as defenders first and everything else second.
 
PKM said:
Totally. I think many here are more grasping at straws and have almost already forgotten what it's like to have a true PG rather than someone who can simply handle the ball, make a few drives, and make a few passes.
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Yeah, exactly. I can understand not needing a pass-first PG in theory, then I think about what our offense has been like with Harris and Mo and...bleh. Mo has been better, obviously, and I think we could be okay with the kind of PG orange described...but at the same time, if we can get our hands on a true PG, I'd rather do that.
 
PKM said:
We need a LEADER.
We need a PG with a strong bbIQ.
A PG that can read a defense, get into the gaps, and have the vision to make the pass in traffic.
A PG that is not a liability on defense.
ServIceable shot.

So I'm less concerned with them being a lockdown defender or dead-eye shot, as much as I am the first three items listed above.
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I think you're describing a younger more athletic Tinsley....
 
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