Obama Government Shutdown?

[Stoked]

Yet the vast majority of you folks were silent in criticism over 8 years. It was only when a black democrat was elected that finally the constitution, vacation days, and the debt mattered

You don't know what the vast majority of anyone was doing. Nice to see you resort to racism. That's original.

 

[Deleted member 365]

You don't know what the vast majority of anyone was doing. Nice to see you resort to racism. That's original.

How am I resorting to racism by including an obvious influence in the politics of our country? Stop being so petty. Grow up and realize that racism is alive and well. Of course, you already got your *** kicked in that thread too as I remember. It absolutely has influence in this country. I'm not however resorting to it because I feel like it's the only factor here. Hence, why I said a black democrat.

You can't deny that for 8 years big government was endorsed, illegal wars wages, constitution trampled upon, and deficits soared while critics of this president were silent.

Again, integrity.

That's all I ask for. Call it the way it is and stop playing political games.

And you cannot deny that utahns are merely doing the same. Had Matheson led a charge to shut down the government while Bush was President and trying to pass Medicare part D, that he wouldn't have been crucified. So why is lee being so worshipped?

Low information voters. Lee is white, mormon, and republican

How can Democracy survive when people merely pay attention to that?

 

[Stoked]

How am I resorting to racism by including an obvious influence in the politics of our country? Stop being so petty. Grow up and realize that racism is alive and well. Of course, you already got your *** kicked in that thread too as I remember. It absolutely has influence in this country. I'm not however resorting to it because I feel like it's the only factor here. Hence, why I said a black democrat.

You can't deny that for 8 years big government was endorsed, illegal wars wages, constitution trampled upon, and deficits soared while critics of this president were silent.

Again, integrity.

That's all I ask for. Call it the way it is and stop playing political games.

If you want integrity than show some. Racism is alive and well but maybe you should open up your eyes and realize that you don't know crap about the other side and stop using racism as a crutch. Taking you off ignore was the biggest mistake I've made on here. You have no interest or desire for actual debate. You are no better than those you rail against. Pathetic

I said good day!

 

[♪alt13]

How many times was Bush asked to show his birth certificate?
If he grew up in the Philippines under a different name, it may have happened. I'm not saying it's right but this is still a xenophobic society.(most of your posts confirm it)
How many times was his religion analyzed?
Bill Maher did this a lot
How many times was his wife mocked?
I could show you a pick of Mrs. "Bush" but I would get infractered
Was he ever imitated by the Speaker of the House?
He was sure lambasted by the mayor of SLC
Was Bush or Reagan ever called out for using Air Force One or going on vacation?
Yes Bush was criticized constantly for going on vacation(partly because he constantly was on vacation)
Why wasn't Bush criticized for putting his shoes up on the table in the Oval Office?
He had a shoe thrown at him. It was awesome.
How many times have Democrats cried about "the takers" and "47 percent" while ignoring the biggest takers, big business?
Nope they demonize corporations and then do them favors for campaign contributions.
Why do we continually endorse a completely failed economic policy?
You'll have to be more specific.
Why do we bash food stamp people while ignore the CEO who just cut his labor force to give himself triple his previous salary?
Republicans don't hate the poor they just believe that the government is inefficient and that charities would do a better job.
Just look at how retarded you conservatives have been about the debt? Where the **** were you guys while your "maverick" pissed away trillion after trillion in tax cuts, Medicare Part D, bailouts, and wars?
Yeah that was hypocrisy of the highest degree, but GwBush didn't have the lowest approval rating ever without many republicans thinking that he sucked.
The mere fact that Mike Lee was elected shows how retarded we are here.
This is the result of gerrymandered districts. I wrote a letter did you?
How many times have the Dems shut down the government?
Really it's not that big of a deal. and it takes 2 to tango.
Comparing the two is like comparing the Lakers to the Clippers. Have fun with that. Then again, I'm not surprised. You were the one originally blaming the democrats here. Until kicky kicked your ***.
I think it's more like comparing Mayo and miracle whip. You probably have a preference but it doesn't really change the sandwich all that much.

 

[BabyPeterzz]

Best analogy ever.

So, Imagine that the company you work for held a poll, and asked everyone if they thought it would be a good idea to put a soda machine in the break room. The poll came back, and the majority of your colleagues said "Yes", indicating that they would like a soda machine. Some said no, but the majority said yes. So, a week later, there's a soda machine. Now imagine that Bill in accounting voted against the soda machine. He has a strong hatred for caffeinated soft drinks, thinks they are bad you you, whatever. He campaigns throughout the office to get the machine removed. Well, management decides "OK, we'll ask again" and again, the majority of people say "Yes, lets keep the soda machine." Bill continues to campaign, and management continues to ask the employees, and every time, the answer is in favor of the soda machine. This happens, lets say... 35 times. Eventually, Bill says "OK, I'M NOT PROCESSING PAYROLL ANYMORE UNTIL THE SODA MACHINE IS REMOVED", so nobody will get paid unless management removes the machine. What should we do???

Answer: Fire Bill and get someone who will do the ****ing job.

Bonus: Bill tells everyone that he was willing to "Negotiate", to come to a solution where everyone got their payroll checks, but only so long as that negotiation capitulated to his demand to remove the soda machine.

Bill is a ****ing jackass.

 

[♪alt13]

Yet the vast majority of you folks were silent in criticism over 8 years. It was only when a black democrat was elected that finally the constitution, vacation days, and the debt mattered

********. Many Republicans(libertarian leaning)were pissed when Bush bailed out the banks. Hence, the tea party movement.

 

[JAG]

How am I resorting to racism by including an obvious influence in the politics of our country? Stop being so petty. Grow up and realize that racism is alive and well. Of course, you already got your *** kicked in that thread too as I remember. It absolutely has influence in this country. I'm not however resorting to it because I feel like it's the only factor here. Hence, why I said a black democrat.

You can't deny that for 8 years big government was endorsed, illegal wars wages, constitution trampled upon, and deficits soared while critics of this president were silent.

Again, integrity.

That's all I ask for. Call it the way it is and stop playing political games.

And you cannot deny that utahns are merely doing the same. Had Matheson led a charge to shut down the government while Bush was President and trying to pass Medicare part D, that he wouldn't have been crucified. So why is lee being so worshipped?

Low information voters. Lee is white, mormon, and republican

How can Democracy survive when people merely pay attention to that?

Back in the 2008 election, I am fairly certain that "low information voters" is, in part, what won Obama the White House. The good majority of the population that voted for him did so because he was black and would become the first black president - and because he was a democrat, rather than a republican.

To summarize: it is not just the white, republicans in Utah (or even just republicans in general) that are guilty of being low information voters. Let's not be hypocrites here.

 

[franklin]

To the extent the crisis is caused by Boehner being unable to tell the 40 tea partiers in his caucus to shut up without losing his job, the Democrats can actually solve this problem and give Boehner a way out.

It would require a creative solution but I think if the Dems stated that they would vote for Boehner for speaker in the event that the GOP caucus moved to vacate his chair then Boehner would probably be untouchable by Tea Party threats. That would also give Boehner significant incentive to behave differently because his internal constituency would have changed dramatically. Dems would have an incentive to keep him there and willing to work with them since they can't win a straight party-line vote othwerwise on the speaker seat.

I suspect that would actually solve the whole problem.

Nah, they all want the Tea Party to crash and burn. This nation has been a policy making mess ever since the rise of Boehner and his blackmailing Tea Party. A few more days of this shutdown and this nation will be so pissed off at them that Obamacare will be set in stone and they'll be heading out of town.

I work with several of your typical conservative, Utah Mormon, family in the armed forces but not getting paid republicans, and they've had enough of this pointless TP nonsense.

Where there's smoke there's fire.

 

[franklin]

How many times was Bush asked to show his birth certificate?
If he grew up in the Philippines under a different name, it may have happened. I'm not saying it's right but this is still a xenophobic society.(most of your posts confirm it)
How many times was his religion analyzed?
Bill Maher did this a lot
How many times was his wife mocked?
I could show you a pick of Mrs. "Bush" but I would get infractered
Was he ever imitated by the Speaker of the House?
He was sure lambasted by the mayor of SLC
Was Bush or Reagan ever called out for using Air Force One or going on vacation?
Yes Bush was criticized constantly for going on vacation(partly because he constantly was on vacation)
Why wasn't Bush criticized for putting his shoes up on the table in the Oval Office?
He had a shoe thrown at him. It was awesome.
How many times have Democrats cried about "the takers" and "47 percent" while ignoring the biggest takers, big business?
Nope they demonize corporations and then do them favors for campaign contributions.
Why do we continually endorse a completely failed economic policy?
You'll have to be more specific.
Why do we bash food stamp people while ignore the CEO who just cut his labor force to give himself triple his previous salary?
Republicans don't hate the poor they just believe that the government is inefficient and that charities would do a better job.
Just look at how retarded you conservatives have been about the debt? Where the **** were you guys while your "maverick" pissed away trillion after trillion in tax cuts, Medicare Part D, bailouts, and wars?
Yeah that was hypocrisy of the highest degree, but GwBush didn't have the lowest approval rating ever without many republicans thinking that he sucked.
The mere fact that Mike Lee was elected shows how retarded we are here.
This is the result of gerrymandered districts. I wrote a letter did you?
How many times have the Dems shut down the government?
Really it's not that big of a deal. and it takes 2 to tango.
Comparing the two is like comparing the Lakers to the Clippers. Have fun with that. Then again, I'm not surprised. You were the one originally blaming the democrats here. Until kicky kicked your ***.
I think it's more like comparing Mayo and miracle whip. You probably have a preference but it doesn't really change the sandwich all that much.

Did you notice littleelvis is back around?

 

[♪alt13]

Did you notice littleelvis is back around?

Huh?

 

[babe]

Nah, they all want the Tea Party to crash and burn. This nation has been a policy making mess ever since the rise of Boehner and his blackmailing Tea Party. A few more days of this shutdown and this nation will be so pissed off at them that Obamacare will be set in stone and they'll be heading out of town.

I work with several of your typical conservative, Utah Mormon, family in the armed forces but not getting paid republicans, and they've had enough of this pointless TP nonsense.

Where there's smoke there's fire.

typical conservatives don't work for the government. your sample selection is as biased as you are. . . . .

conservative republicans who are serious about returning us to a more original intent version of the American Experiment. . . who really think less government is a better way to go, along with less nannystate cradle society. . . . let me restate that. . . who think people can do better for themselves on their own account if allowed the freedom to just do so. . . . have been the object of the RINO reactionaries since 2010. Well longer than that. . . . since forever in fact. . . . Mainstream republicans love bashing them just as much any dems do.

The truth is, the Bush league Republicans are in the sack for Nannystate just as much as any Dems are. Neither set gives a damn about human rights or liberty.

This round of the traditional hissy fit is a fight for the Republican Party. I say the Republican Party has long belonged to the banker elitists. . . ever since Abraham Lincoln in fact. The Dems have no reason to compromise when it's really not even their battle. . . . just let the Republicans do themselves in. . . .

The next thing people will do is sack the Dem party. As long as the elites have both parties in their pockets one way or another, it's time people stopped supporting either one.

 

[babe]

Huh?

I think he's saying you're LE8 of days of yore. . . . hey hey. . . . those pics of sltrib staffers in their Hitler gear were classic. . . . did you know who owns the sltrib. . . . that's right. . . the same folks who bankrolled Hitler by sending Prescott Bush with a satchel filled with $20M to fund the false flag Reichstag fire and solidify Hitler's power. . . .

Rockefeller and Bush financial investments in the Nazi war machine continued throughout the war. Fancy that. Start a war, and own the businesses that make the bullets for both sides. What a racket.

Even Obama is their boy.