LDS general conference - Fall 2013
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Very. Or rather, they tried really hard to raise me LDS.
(And I failed already. What else is new.)
spycam1
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kewl
How long were you active in the church, if you don't mind me asking? Just curious.
It depends on what your parameters are exactly. I begrudgingly went to church as late as at 19 years old because my dad offered to pay my car insurance if I did. Active by CHOICE? I'm not sure I ever was, so maybe I'm not qualified to nay say. I think I paid a lot more attention to what was being said than most of my peers, but that's not really here nor there (I still remember having a Sunday school teacher in my teen years that actually knew less about her lesson plan than I did more often than not, which is even less here or there).
I really liked those Living Scriptures videos though, so there's that. Helaman's Stripling Warriors = pure badass ****.
Some view the priesthood as much more a responsibility than a right or privilege.
I know this is kind of obtuse, but the young men in my ward are responsible for taking the garbage out of the building after meetings every Sunday. The young women, who outnumber the YM about 2 to 1, are never tasked with it. Not because they can't, but because they, as daughters of God, are above it.
Holding the Priesthood is ecclesiastic janitorial work.
I think the Priesthood is largely misunderstood - it's not magic and it's not authority over anyone else. It's simply a responsibility to serve God. It's extra work, and daughters of God are above it. There are no blessings available to Priesthood holders that aren't available to any and every faithful member.
[/my opinion]
I know this is kind of obtuse, but the young men in my ward are responsible for taking the garbage out of the building after meetings every Sunday. The young women, who outnumber the YM about 2 to 1, are never tasked with it. Not because they can't, but because they, as daughters of God, are above it.
Holding the Priesthood is ecclesiastic janitorial work.
I think the Priesthood is largely misunderstood - it's not magic and it's not authority over anyone else. It's simply a responsibility to serve God. It's extra work, and daughters of God are above it. There are no blessings available to Priesthood holders that aren't available to any and every faithful member.
[/my opinion]
spycam1
Well-Known Member
Why?
The garbage thing is because the church fired many janitors in 2000 in a money-saving move. In 2010 the remaining janitorial staff was let go and the church requested that 20-25 people do the janitorial work every week. That's a lot of cleaning.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/38795446/Mormon-Church-Letter-Appointing-Members-as-Janitors
Although I do love this hilariously over produced video about why cleaning the church improves your testimony: https://www.lds.org/callings/meetinghouse-care/reverence?lang=eng
Holy ****.
Do I really have to open up that can of worms? I feel like you're going to blast me regardless of how I answer. Oh well...
I think God holds women in higher regard. I know He is "no respecter or persons", but I think the basic characteristics they generally share indicate that he trusts them in a different way than men.
These characteristics include, but are not limited to, compassion, patience, and the ability to nurture and forgive. Yeah, I know. Not all women are like that, and some men are.
Again, this is all just my opinion.
I was trying to draw a metaphor. Apparently I failed.
Joe Bagadonuts
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I'll admit it's been a long time since I left the church and I really haven't paid much attention to it in the interim, but this sounds ridiculous. I recall women working very hard in the church when I attended it, probably harder than men, and although I'm uncertain if any of them ever took the garbage out I definitely don't recall that it was a responsibility of men that was in any way tied to the priesthood.
Additionally, I recall men having all sorts of privileges afforded them by the priesthood which weren't available to women. For example, all of the top leadership positions are exclusively male and only male priesthood holders can lay their hands on others to give blessings, etc. I think you've become so used to the bias that you either don't see it or you are willing to justify it no matter what.
Beantown
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You're wrong. The priesthood is all about serving and helping others. especially women and children. The men are always taking down the chairs, cleaning the building etc. But also women have huge roles in Wards. Relief Society President and Primary President are the hardest callings besides Bishop.