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Gay marriage in Utah put on hold

Beantown said:
Gay families will always have to rely on heterosexuals to create families. Their relationships are not equal. I have no issue with them being treated equal in a social aspect but don't lie to my face and say they are the same.
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Families aren't created when a child is born.
 
Hurray, delay the inevitable and continue to waste money fighting an unwinnable fight. It will eventually be changed in every state and in every country that has a half-decent sense of human rights, so I don't see what this accomplishes.

And Bean, please stop failing with your word selection. Saying "not equal" is a pretty bad way to present your argument. Nobody here is denying that two males or two females cannot have babies, but having babies really isn't an accomplishment when plenty of ****ty parents have kids they never meant to. What about when parents have a kid they weren't capable of caring for, and the kid grows up in foster care? What about babies that are thrown in dumpsters because they are unwanted? What about a baby conceived by rape? Now that's a high quality heterosexual relationship, all premised on the glorious ability to make babies.

If you are saying they are different and that's simply your argument, then duh, you don't need to explain that to anybody. But if you are saying they are lesser than a heterosexual relationship then you are really barking up the wrong tree. Homosexual relationships wouldn't even make a dent in the rate that humanity is reproducing, so who gives a ****? If two people die happy because they got to do what they wanted to do without hurting anybody, then I don't see what the point is of scrutinizing or assigning value to any relationship.
 
unluckyseventeen said:
If you are saying they are different and that's simply your argument, then duh, you don't need to explain that to anybody. But if you are saying they are lesser than a heterosexual relationship then you are really barking up the wrong tree. Homosexual relationships wouldn't even make a dent in the rate that humanity is reproducing, so who gives a ****? If two people die happy because they got to do what they wanted to do without hurting anybody, then I don't see what the point is of scrutinizing or assigning value to any relationship.
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Exactly they are different. Yet everyone wants to say they are exactly the same and equal in every way. Call an apple an apple and call an orange an orange.
 
International committee for marriage. Create this, let them deliberate what the word marriage actually means, and come back with an answer upheld by the united nations

That just happened.
 
Darkwing Duck said:
Conception occurs when a sperm fertilizes an egg. Homosexuals can produce sperm and have eggs. There are many ways for fertilization to occur without sexual intercourse.
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And as you just pointed out, they invariably rely on having both a male and a female. Not on two males or two females.
 
ElRoach0 said:
International committee for marriage. Create this, let them deliberate what the word marriage actually means, and come back with an answer upheld by the united nations

That just happened.
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As long as it doesn't require U.S. boots on the ground I'm on board. Ahh, hell, even if we need to put boots on the ground, it's important enough.
 
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