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[tr]
[td]Lotto[/td]
[td]Team[/td]
[td]Conf.[/td]
[td]win[/td]
[td]loss[/td]
[td]win pct.[/td]
[td]tank alert(last 10 games)[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]1st[/td]
[td]Milwaukee Bucks[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]8[/td]
[td]35[/td]
[td].186[/td]
[td]1-9[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]2nd[/td]
[td]Orlando Magic[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]12[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td].273[/td]
[td]2-8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3rd[/td]
[td]Philadelphia 76ers[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]14[/td]
[td]30[/td]
[td].318[/td]
[td]2-8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]4th[/td]
[td]Boston Celtics[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]30[/td]
[td].333[/td]
[td]2-8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]5th[/td]
[td]Utah Jazz[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td].341[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]6th[/td]
[td]Sacramento Kings*6[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td].357[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]7th[/td]
[td]L.A. Lakers[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]16[/td]
[td]28[/td]
[td].364[/td]
[td]2-8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]8th[/td]
[td]Cleveland Cavaliers[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]16[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td].372[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]9th[/td]
[td]New York Knicks*2[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]16[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td].372[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]10th[/td]
[td]Detroit Pistons*5[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]17[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td].395[/td]
[td]3-7[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]11th[/td]
[td]New Orleans Pelicans*1[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]17[/td]
[td]25[/td]
[td].405[/td]
[td]2-8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]12th[/td]
[td]Minnesota Timberwolves*9[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]21[/td]
[td]22[/td]
[td].488[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]13th[/td]
[td]Denver Nuggets*3[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]21[/td]
[td]21[/td]
[td].500[/td]
[td]6-4[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]14th[/td]
[td]Memphis Grizzlies[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]22[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td].524[/td]
[td]8-2[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

Goden State Warriors: 23rd


*1 Philadelphia 76ers: Receives New Orleans Pelicans 2014 first-round pick (1-5 protected in 2014) via Jrue Holiday trade on 7/10/13.

*2 Denver Nuggets: Receives New York Knicks 2014 first-round pick via Carmelo Anthony trade on 02/22/11.

*3 Orlando Magic: Receives less favorable of Denver Nuggets/New York Knicks 2014 first-round pick via Dwight Howard trade on 8/10/12.

*4 Phoenix Suns: Receives Washington Wizards 2014 first-round pick (1-12 protected in 2014) via Marcin Gortat trade on 8/25/13.

*5 Charlotte Bobcats: Receives Detroit Pistons 2014 first-round pick (1-8 protected in 2014) via Ben Gordon trade on 6/26/12.

*6 Chicago Bulls: Receives Sacramento Kings 2014 first-round pick (1-12 protected in 2014) via J.J. Hickson trade on 6/30/11 to Cleveland. Via Luol Deng trade on 01/06/14

*7 Atlanta Hawks: Has right to swap 2014 first-round pick with Brooklyn Nets via Joe Johnson trade on 7/11/12.

*8 Chicago Bulls: Receives Charlotte’s 2014 first-round pick (1-10 protected in 2014) via Tyrus Thomas trade on 2/18/10.

*9 Phoenix Suns: Receives Minnesota Timberwolves 2014 first-round pick (1-13 protected in 2014) via Wesley Johnson trade on 7/27/13.

*10 Utah Jazz: Receive Golden State Warriors 2014 first-round pick (unprotected)


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[td]Seed[/td]
[td]1st[/td]
[td]2nd[/td]
[td]3rd[/td]
[td]4th[/td]
[td]5th[/td]
[td]6th[/td]
[td]7th[/td]
[td]8th[/td]
[td]9th[/td]
[td]10th[/td]
[td]11th[/td]
[td]12th[/td]
[td]13th[/td]
[td]14th[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]1st[/td]
[td].250[/td]
[td].215[/td]
[td].178[/td]
[td].357[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]2nd[/td]
[td].199[/td]
[td].188[/td]
[td].171[/td]
[td].319[/td]
[td].123[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3rd[/td]
[td].156[/td]
[td].157[/td]
[td].156[/td]
[td].226[/td]
[td].265[/td]
[td].040[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]4th[/td]
[td].119[/td]
[td].126[/td]
[td].133[/td]
[td].099[/td]
[td].351[/td]
[td].160[/td]
[td].012[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]5th[/td]
[td].088[/td]
[td].097[/td]
[td].107[/td]
[td][/td]
[td].261[/td]
[td].360[/td]
[td].084[/td]
[td].004[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]6th[/td]
[td].063[/td]
[td].071[/td]
[td].081[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].439[/td]
[td].305[/td]
[td].040[/td]
[td].001[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]7th[/td]
[td].043[/td]
[td].049[/td]
[td].058[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].529[/td]
[td].232[/td]
[td].018[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]8th[/td]
[td].028[/td]
[td].033[/td]
[td].039[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].724[/td]
[td].168[/td]
[td].008[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]9th[/td]
[td].017[/td]
[td].020[/td]
[td].024[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].813[/td]
[td].122[/td]
[td].004[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]10th[/td]
[td].011[/td]
[td].013[/td]
[td].016[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].870[/td]
[td].089[/td]
[td].002[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]11th[/td]
[td].008[/td]
[td].009[/td]
[td].012[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].907[/td]
[td].063[/td]
[td].001[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]12th[/td]
[td].007[/td]
[td].009[/td]
[td].012[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].935[/td]
[td].039[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]13th[/td]
[td].006[/td]
[td].007[/td]
[td].009[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].960[/td]
[td].018[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]14th[/td]
[td].005[/td]
[td].006[/td]
[td].007[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].982[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

Tank Ranking:
1. Milwaukee Bucks
2. Orlando Magic
2. Philadelphia 76ers
2. New Orleans Pelicans
2. Boston Celtics
2. L.A. Lakers
 
@UGLI, who do you compare burks to?

Frank compared him to nick young and thats not a bad comparison.... Young is a better shooter but a way bigger chucker, burks has a better attitude and is quicker and a better passer, but if your looking for a more realistic comparison i think thats a pretty good one for now.
 
Burks is much more than a fringe starter and much less than dwade. Not sure who he comps to, but if he ever averaged 35 min a game, avg 15-16 shots he could be borderline all star. He has all the tools to be a lock down defender if he wants to be. I think he has a bright future and put him ahead of kanter if I had to rank core 5.
 
fishonjazz said:
@UGLI, who do you compare burks to?

Frank compared him to nick young and thats not a bad comparison.... Young is a better shooter but a way bigger chucker, burks has a better attitude and is quicker and a better passer, but if your looking for a more realistic comparison i think thats a pretty good one for now.
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Sorry but nick young is a really poor comparison. Burks helps us win. Nick young has never helped a team win.
 
Vermin said:
Burks is much more than a fringe starter and much less than dwade. Not sure who he comps to, but if he ever averaged 35 min a game, avg 15-16 shots he could be borderline all star. He has all the tools to be a lock down defender if he wants to be. I think he has a bright future and put him ahead of kanter if I had to rank core 5.
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Good post, and if im honest from what he has had the opportunity to show us so far, then uglis opinion is probably still more realistic.
But just off my opinion and what i am seeing from him, i agree with vermins post..... I think D wade is a bit unrealistic but i could see burks being a similar player.... just a rung or two down from wade.
 
Vermin said:
Sorry but nick young is a really poor comparison. Burks helps us win. Nick young has never helped a team win.
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I agree....... frank mentioned it a few times and could see some similarities (size, athleticism, confidence, swagger, finishing in awkward trick shot situations) but i do think burks has alot more variety to his skillset, a better attitude, better defender, better passer, better rebounder, and alot more room to improve due to his much younger age.
Nick youngs only advantage is that he is a better 3 point shooter.
 
Burks is simply not good. Don't look at per 36s, look at the game and his advanced. He disrupts the team concept. There's a reason he hasn't gotten more playing time, because he makes everyone around him worse when his basketball antics aren't working. He doesn't defend anyone and there's one reason you shouldn't compare him to Wade: Wade was a roolkie, this is Burks 3rd year and he's barely efficient when playing vs reserve units. One is a first year I still got to figure it out production vs starter, the other guy is 3rd year against reserves and stuff. As I said. $3M is max I'd spend on him in this condition.
ANd I forgot. His BBIQ and off ball movement are so low. Really a no show if playing off the ball. But then again: His 3 pointer is shaky. Not much spacing he can provide. Everyone takes away the backdoor cut when helping away from him.
 
BTP said:
Burks is simply not good. Don't look at per 36s, look at the game and his advanced. He disrupts the team concept. There's a reason he hasn't gotten more playing time, because he makes everyone around him worse when his basketball antics aren't working. He doesn't defend anyone and there's one reason you shouldn't compare him to Wade: Wade was a roolkie, this is Burks 3rd year and he's barely efficient when playing vs reserve units. One is a first year I still got to figure it out production vs starter, the other guy is 3rd year against reserves and stuff. As I said. $3M is max I'd spend on him in this condition.
ANd I forgot. His BBIQ and off ball movement are so low. Really a no show if playing off the ball. But then again: His 3 pointer is shaky. Not much spacing he can provide. Everyone takes away the backdoor cut when helping away from him.
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last night only attempts 8 shots and is +11 in 31 extremely efficient minutes (6-8). Also rebounded well (5) played team ball and passed well.
totally took beal out of his game by harassing him on the defensive end all night too.

SMD

If anything, burks needs to be a little bit more of a ball hog.
 
BTP said:
Really a no show if playing off the ball. But then again: His 3 pointer is shaky. Not much spacing he can provide. Everyone takes away the backdoor cut when helping away from him.
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This could be said of d wade as well
Burks, when in his proper roll, shouldn't play off the ball much.
 
BTP said:
Wade was a roolkie, this is Burks 3rd year and he's barely efficient when playing vs reserve units. One is a first year I still got to figure it out production vs starter, the other guy is 3rd year against reserves and stuff.
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Dont look at the numbers, look at the situations
Burks first year was a lock out year with no pre-season or fall camp and then a bunch of DNPCD's and inconsistent minutes. His second year there was no point guard (due to mo injury) and burks again got alot of dnp's and inconsistent minutes combined with inconsistent postition/role (point guard or shooting guard)
Burks has been coached by corbin

This year he is finally getting consistent minutes and consistent role and actually being used to his strengths at times.
This is kinda like the rookie year he never had.... and he is 22 years old. (dwayne wades rookie year he was 21/22)
 
Tonight has the potential to be a really good night for the tank.

Lakers vs Knicks: someone has to win and both are 16 win teams bunched in with the jazz. Hope for Lakers

Magic vs Pelicans: magic with 12 wins and pelicans with 17. Pelicans at home and lets hope they win, since we probably cant compete with orlandos tank.

Suns vs Cavs: Cavs have 16 wins... this one is at home for cleveland. GO CAVS!

Nets vs Celtics: nets with 19 wins (not too worried about them) and celts with 15 wins. this game is in boston. GO CELTICS! come on rondo!

Pistons vs mavs: Pistons with only 17 wins so i hope they win but at least if the mavs win then they get closer to GS. (mavs with 25 wins and GS with 26 right now)

Trailblazers vs Warriors: In golden state but the blazers are good. GO BLAZERS!

Nuggets vs Kings: This game is in sacramento so hopefully they can pull out the win. Kings with 15 wins.

For comparison: Jazz have 15 wins so tonight could be HUGE
 
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