What an embarrassing night for all Jazz fans (4/14/14). Tank crowd can suck a fat one. (LONG)

[Bodhi]

Tyrus Thomas and Adam Morrison were top 5 picks in the same draft. Aside from ESPN's hype machine - who in the draft are you so sold on that is such a can't miss piece to a championship puzzle that we should've tanked the whole season to have a chance to maybe be in position to take them (if the lotto worked out in our favor?)?

I'll be kind enough to answer your question, if you'll do mine.

I think out of the top 3 (Wiggins/Embiid/Parker) at least 2 will turn into cornerstones for a franchise. I also think out of the rest there are likely to be 2-3 more who will be all-star level. I think it will be a very good draft. Am I certain of it? Nope. GM's get fired on a regular basis because there are no guarantees. You seem to know it all though based of playing in gyms in front of parents of players and maybe an aunt or girl friend or two.

Now me. Do you know more about basketball at the NBA level than Dennis Lindsay? What about Danny Ainge? Simple question.

 

[Fabtrey]

Tyrus Thomas and Adam Morrison were top 5 picks in the same draft. Aside from ESPN's hype machine - who in the draft are you so sold on that is such a can't miss piece to a championship puzzle that we should've tanked the whole season to have a chance to maybe be in position to take them (if the lotto worked out in our favor?)?

you gotta play the odds. top 5 picks have better chance to be the next all star than 10-15. yes, there are busts everywhere. i guarantee there will be a bust or two in this year's top 10.

but just look at the past draft history. it's better to pick top 5 than 10-15. unlike football or baseball, basketball talent is much easier to scout too

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Obviously... I didn't infer he wasn't a primary reason. But the fact is you need a lot more than one superstar.

And yet that team without Duncan doesn't win, and role players are easier to acquire then stars.


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[HighlandHomie]

I'll be kind enough to answer your question, if you'll do mine.

I think out of the top 3 (Wiggins/Embiid/Parker) at least 2 will turn into cornerstones for a franchise. I also think out of the rest there are likely to be 2-3 more who will be all-star level. I think it will be a very good draft. Am I certain of it? Nope. GM's get fired on a regular basis because there are no guarantees. You seem to know it all though based of playing in gyms in front of parents of players and maybe an aunt or girl friend or two.

Now me. Do you know more about basketball at the NBA level than Dennis Lindsay? What about Danny Ainge? Simple question.

You seem to have displayed the reading comprehension level of a toddler, as I conveyed little of what you assert. I've said from the start I was fine with missing the playoffs this year based on our roster. DL working under handcuff of Greg Miller (too cheap to buy out Corbin and hire a real coach while Ty was still on contract), and DA got his coach - their roster even worse than Jazz talent-wise. Of course I have the confidence DL can put together a contender through the draft and free agency. He's going to, hopefully, get to hand pick his next head coach.

Jazz and Celts are completely different situations, and not really comparable. Celts are totally rebuilding their foundation/roster, whereas the Jazz have the foundation in place. The Jazz had the foundation in place heading into this season. That's where my issue is. The rebuilding process was halted for a full season on account of Miller refusing to pony up and remove that lameduck, ****sack coach of ours.

 

[b_line]

Hey Guys! I was sportsing very hard tonight at the junior college, and I realized that I was prolly as good as that jabbery parker kid, and wuggins couldn't guard me or nuffin.

Anyway, just thought I would let you all know that you can get me, a superstar sportser, undrafted this summer. It's cool, I ain't gonna bother declaring for the darft, I'm too busy sportsing very hard, and would not want to miss out on winning all the games possible.

 

[HighlandHomie]

And yet that team without Duncan doesn't win, and role players are easier to acquire then stars.


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I agree. But lets say the Jazz had the Bucks record this year, and by some crazy stroke of luck 2 teams jumped ahead of them in the lotto and missed out on the one who ends up being the cornerstone? What does that say for throwing an entire season away? Hell the Jazz coulda still got the 1 if they won 15 more games this year and missed the playoffs.

 

[Flc]

As the seventh pick for my fifth grade kickball team tournament, I'm pretty sure we shouldn't tank because perpetual mediocrity is awesome.

 

[b_line]

You seem to have displayed the reading comprehension level of a toddler, as I conveyed little of what you assert. I've said from the start I was fine with missing the playoffs this year based on our roster. DL working under handcuff of Greg Miller (too cheap to buy out Corbin and hire a real coach while Ty was still on contract), and DA got his coach - their roster even worse than Jazz talent-wise. Of course I have the confidence DL can put together a contender through the draft and free agency. He's going to, hopefully, get to hand pick his next head coach.

Jazz and Celts are completely different situations, and not really comparable. Celts are totally rebuilding their foundation/roster, whereas the Jazz have the foundation in place. The Jazz had the foundation in place heading into this season. That's where my issue is. The rebuilding process was halted for a full season on account of Miller refusing to pony up and remove that lameduck, ****sack coach of ours.

How is it that Boston has less of a foundation in place than ours? They have Rondo, Sullinger, Olynyk, Jeff Green, and some other young guys. We have 5 young guys, and no one near as good as Rondo has been in the past. If anything, we are farther behind than Boston. We need a stud in the draft more than they do.

 

[Bodhi]

You seem to have displayed the reading comprehension level of a toddler, as I conveyed little of what you assert. I've said from the start I was fine with missing the playoffs this year based on our roster. DL working under handcuff of Greg Miller (too cheap to buy out Corbin and hire a real coach while Ty was still on contract), and DA got his coach - their roster even worse than Jazz talent-wise. Of course I have the confidence DL can put together a contender through the draft and free agency. He's going to, hopefully, get to hand pick his next head coach.

Jazz and Celts are completely different situations, and not really comparable. Celts are totally rebuilding their foundation/roster, whereas the Jazz have the foundation in place. The Jazz had the foundation in place heading into this season. That's where my issue is. The rebuilding process was halted for a full season on account of Miller refusing to pony up and remove that lameduck, ****sack coach of ours.

Thanks for answering my question. A man of true integrity.

 

[8]

Obviously... I didn't infer he wasn't a primary reason. But the fact is you need a lot more than one superstar.

*imply (in the sentence with the double negative)

Stop using words like quip, fallacious, baffling, etc. and speak like a normal person

 

[b_line]

I agree. But lets say the Jazz had the Bucks record this year, and by some crazy stroke of luck 2 teams jumped ahead of them in the lotto and missed out on the one who ends up being the cornerstone? What does that say for throwing an entire season away? Hell the Jazz coulda still got the 1 if they won 15 more games this year and missed the playoffs.

I would just pick one of the other 3-4 guys that will likely be a franchise cornerstone with the 3rd pick. Of course, you could also just win 15 more games, and be in the late lottery, and get Doug McBuckets, and get the sixth seed in the west for the next 6 years, and blow up the team again, if that is what you want, but personally, I would rather be guaranteed to get one of the top 7 players in this draft, and not have to hang my hopes on some dude who MIGHT be as good as Kyle Korver in a few years.

 

[HighlandHomie]

How is it that Boston has less of a foundation in place than ours? They have Rondo, Sullinger, Olynyk, Jeff Green, and some other young guys. We have 5 young guys, and no one near as good as Rondo has been in the past. If anything, we are farther behind than Boston. We need a stud in the draft more than they do.

Disagreed. Rondo and Green are on books through next season - who knows how either figure into their plans. Sullinger/Olynyk pales in comparison to Favors/Kanter. Sullinger is a fringe starter on a mediocre team at best. They hardly have a foundation in place.