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Hantlers explains why things are the way they are on reservations

Stoked said:
Ahh..there it is. Knew it couldn't stay hidden for long.

Basically I am white and any ideas I may have on race and minorities are racist misconceptions. However those held by any member of any minority are not misconceptions. They are informed decisions based on my racism.
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Wow, that's remarkably self-centered. You think other people read your mind, or care what you think?

Stoked said:
Basically I am white and any ideas I may have on race and minorities are based on my experience, where I benefit or do not get harmed from the racism in society. However those held by any member of any minority are not misconceptions. They are informed decisions based on the harm they suffer of the benefits they do not receive.
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Fixed.
 
One Brow said:
So, when you hear a singular word, the first image that pops into your mind is a crowd of people? What an interesting brain you have (unless you are kidding yourself).
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It is often based on who I happen to be talking to at the moment actually. So the generic "people" seems apropriate.

The fact that it is always black people that pop into yours and your misconception that that is always how it must be is what I find interesting.
 
One Brow said:
Wow, that's remarkably self-centered. You think other people read your mind, or care what you think?



Fixed.
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hahahaha. Don't be mad that I called you down from your soap box to borrow it for a minute. You are the jazzfanz king of this. Multiple people have told you this.
 
One Brow said:
Because of the portrayal in the major media, the images around "welfare" are racially charged.
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You would have to prove that. Opinion has no place with the assertions you are making.

And even then, you would have to prove that the word welfare=image of poor black person (have to gender identify in that case, since you're being specific and all, which makes me wonder why you're not chirping about welfare being sexually charged against women or men) equates to complaining about welfare being racially charged or motivated, to which the correlation doesn't immediately exist.

Example. The term "professional basketball player" might bring up an image of a tall, black man. Firstly, that doesn't mean 100% of professional basketball players are tall, black men. Secondly, complaining about professional basketball players, say they're selfish ball hogs in comparison to their amateur equivalents, does not imply that black people are selfish ball hogs. That correlation does NOT exist unless you can prove that, and providing mass media as an explanation with no sourcing provides zero conclusiveness, just full speculation, which is pretty useless to explain the assertion you're making.
 
I don't have much to contribute to this thread except that when I hear the word 'welfare,' racial minorities are not the image that comes to mind. A different, equally unfair vision comes to my mind, but not of minorities. Perhaps this comes from my time living in rural Ohio, rural Missouri, or small-town Texas. In any case, I was curious if the assertion was true. I wasn't sure how to give this a quick test, but figured I'd see what kind of representation google images gave me. I'll let anyone interpret as they will, of there's any interpreting to be done. Feel free to submit anymore search phrases that may be deemed appropriate:

"welfare"
https://www.google.com/search?q=wel...a=X&ei=9hNbU8PfLMmG8QGV2YDgAQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ

"government welfare"
https://www.google.com/search?q=gov...a=X&ei=jhRbU7yqC8GH8AHW5YDgBQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAg

"people on welfare"
https://www.google.com/search?q=peo...a=X&ei=2hRbU-mmO8fC8AGc6YCIDw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ
 
infection said:
I don't have much to contribute to this thread except that when I hear the word 'welfare,' racial minorities are not the image that comes to mind. A different, equally unfair vision comes to my mind, but not of minorities. Perhaps this comes from my time living in rural Ohio, rural Missouri, or small-town Texas. In any case, I was curious if the assertion was true. I wasn't sure how to give this a quick test, but figured I'd see what kind of representation google images gave me. I'll let anyone interpret as they will, of there's any interpreting to be done. Feel free to submit anymore search phrases that may be deemed appropriate:

"welfare"
https://www.google.com/search?q=wel...a=X&ei=9hNbU8PfLMmG8QGV2YDgAQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ

"government welfare"
https://www.google.com/search?q=gov...a=X&ei=jhRbU7yqC8GH8AHW5YDgBQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAg

"people on welfare"
https://www.google.com/search?q=peo...a=X&ei=2hRbU-mmO8fC8AGc6YCIDw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ
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"Clearly, people are so afraid to post their REAL feelings, they overcompensate by making pictures of white people." -- OneBrown
 
The interesting picture I saw in those was this one:

welfare-queen.png


Not linking the page since it has a bad word in the article. Can extrapolate some things, but still not to the overreaching point that's trying to be made in this thread so far.
 
One Brow said:
Really? When you read/hear "welfare recipient", the first image in your brain has blue skin? Purple? Gray?
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Honestly the first image that came in to my head when I read this sentence was a large white woman and her white husband with about 6 kids, all in line at a Walmart while she separated out the beer and other alcohol from the food and paid for the regular food with her foodstamp card and the alcohol with cash, while all of her kids played on iphones or other smartphones with obvious data connections. As we more or less followed them to the parking lot and noted they were riding in a relatively new (at the time) Excursion. That was the first image that came to mind.
 
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