Jazz reaction to the Sterling ban.

[GVC]

It has everything to do with freedom of speech and the first amendment.

It has nothing to do with freedom of speech or the first amendment. Can you explain how government deprived this man of his freedom of speech?

Do you think the first amendment protects you from being fired if you berate your boss all day every day?

 

[DutchJazzer]

you sir have a better taste than I do.
still I'd do her

really?

we are talking about this one right?

her face looks weird and mallformed
look at this pic



also in this picture no relevant cleavage

seriously plastic surgery for purely cosmetic reasons is 99.99% atracactive.
she belongs to the 99.9%.

she also is not ebautifull formt he inside.

so she has othing i would offer. i would rather do gordon hayward

 

[9erute]

He is an owner of a multimillion dollar business. He is not simply an employee. The NBA has no right to take away what he has worked for.

 

[Bill]

It has everything to do with freedom of speech and the first amendment . This is ******** about how the "NBA constitution" can override an individuals 1st amendment right . So according to this kind of reasoning it is ok to violate rights as long as the majority is ok with it. It is ok to bring back slavery as long as the individual agreed to a contract or " constitution ". We also should not expect any form of privacy in our homes. Intrapment is encouraged and perfectly legal. Murders are fine as well as suicides as long as the individual(s) agreed to the "constitution" of a buisness . It needs to stop Donald is an idiot but had broken no laws.

I agree 100%. You have to ask yourself, at what point in Germany was it not ok to say anything bad about Hitler and not get killed for it even in your own home. This may seem like an extreme example to some but when you begin to give up certain freedoms, it is not too far away.

Donald Sterling is an idiot, there is no question of that however if he made this comment in his own home, it should end there.

 

[DutchJazzer]

It has nothing to do with freedom of speech or the first amendment. Can you explain how government deprived this man of his freedom of speech?

Do you think the first amendment protects you from being fired if you berate your boss all day every day?

freedom of speech. is a right.
the government did not deprive him of it.

but basically the NBA took it AWAY!



for example another amendment stats every single man is equel.
as long as the government treats it that way is ok.
but private busines tdo not have to threat men that way?



it is all about freedom of speech

 

[Bill]

I agree about her but we have to be careful what we say, she may get us banned from watching NBA or commenting online!!

 

[Tarkanian]

freedom of speech cannot protect racial slurs.
it is not what that freedom sets to shield.
racist remarks are only abuses of that right!

 

[footawn]

i would ... do gordon hayward

glad we got that on the public record

 

[addictionary]

Freedom as a concept has to have the limit of "not attacking others' freedoms". Otherwise it is not freedom. It is going back to the primitive-communal age.

 

[9erute]

freedom of speech cannot protect racial slurs.
it is not what that freedom sets to shield.
racist remarks are only abuses of that right!

Feels a bit Communist to me

 

[GVC]

He is an owner of a multimillion dollar business. He is not simply an employee. The NBA has no right to take away what he has worked for.

I don't know the specifics of the NBA constitution, or the agreements that Sterling has made as an owner of an NBA franchise. I'm guessing you don't either.

With that said, I tend to fall more on the side of Kareem and Bomani Jones on this issue. What Sterling said in this particular recording isn't all that offensive IMO, especially in comparison to some of his past behaviors.

 

[enchilada_style]

It has everything to do with freedom of speech and the first amendment . This is ******** about how the "NBA constitution" can override an individuals 1st amendment right . So according to this kind of reasoning it is ok to violate rights as long as the majority is ok with it. It is ok to bring back slavery as long as the individual agreed to a contract or " constitution ". We also should not expect any form of privacy in our homes. Intrapment is encouraged and perfectly legal. Murders are fine as well as suicides as long as the individual(s) agreed to the "constitution" of a buisness . It needs to stop Donald is an idiot but had broken no laws.

Oh boy, we got another "freedom of speech" guy.

 

[Tarkanian]

Feels a bit Communist to me

I knew it.

but seriously, it may only be a tad legalist, that's all!

add-on:
nice and easy read here;
https://academic.udayton.edu/race/06hrights/waronterrorism/racial02.htm

 

[enchilada_style]

He is an owner of a multimillion dollar business. He is not simply an employee. The NBA has no right to take away what he has worked for.

This is why the words that he said have such an impact because he is the owner of multimillion dollar business. If you said these things you'd still probably have a job at Hostess.

 

[9erute]

Oh boy, we got another "freedom of speech" guy.

I know, it's really not that important we should just tear the document up and wipe our asses with it right? I mean shoot only hundreds of thousands men died for it right? Yeah no big deal......

 

[GVC]

I know, it's really not that important we should just tear the document up and wipe our asses with it right? I mean shoot only hundreds of thousands men died for it right? Yeah no big deal......

I'm convinced you've never actually read the first amendment.

 

[9erute]

I'm convinced you've never actually read the first amendment.

I haven't . I just read it and yup I am spot on. Hahaha

 

[jope]

It has everything to do with freedom of speech and the first amendment . This is ******** about how the "NBA constitution" can override an individuals 1st amendment right . So according to this kind of reasoning it is ok to violate rights as long as the majority is ok with it. It is ok to bring back slavery as long as the individual agreed to a contract or " constitution ". We also should not expect any form of privacy in our homes. Intrapment is encouraged and perfectly legal. Murders are fine as well as suicides as long as the individual(s) agreed to the "constitution" of a buisness . It needs to stop Donald is an idiot but had broken no laws.

Picture being on a board of officers for a major company (Sterling, and the other 29 owners). if you do something fiscally and disreputably damaging (alienating fans, employees, and sponsors) to the company (the NBA), even if it isnt breaking any laws (freedom of speech), that board has the right to remove you from that position of power (the owners' votes for Sterling's removal), for the preservation of the company (the NBA). --- all of which he agreed to abide by when he became a partner in the NBA entity.

As far as the "intrapment", while i agree it was shady, it is beyond the point now. The damage has been done to the league, and he must reap what he sews. the collective ownership will not stand for their products (their own NBA teams) to be devalued by his incompetence. They will take action to limit the damage. It is foolish to expect otherwise.

 

[♪alt13]

The one thing that I don't get is african americans call eachother n***a, but the minute a white person calls them it we are racist. I am in high school and I have black friends and they all call me that. It's just how this generation of people is I guess.

Last post I read in this thread. can of worms

 

[olden_undercover]

I know, it's really not that important we should just tear the document up and wipe our asses with it right? I mean shoot only hundreds of thousands men died for it right? Yeah no big deal......

Hundreds of thousands died for the freedom to pursue life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, not so the Donald Sterlings of this world could use wealth and a false sense of power as justification to act in a morally and ethically contemptible manner.

Look, the league's actions against Sterling are unrelated to freedom of speech. At best, V. Stiviano should prepare herself for a very ugly lawsuit related to the violation of his privacy, but the only blame to be placed on the league is in having procrastinated taking action against a man with a decades-long track record of apathy and bigotry. On the surface, Sterling is technically being punished for damages his recent actions have caused the league in the form of dropped sponsorships and public perception, and the league took the opportunity to make a strong statement regarding intolerance for bigotry. Beneath the surface, the NBA has a new commissioner who was under the former commissioner that tolerated Sterling's bad behaviors for decades. If I am Adam Silver, I probably look at this situation as the final straw-- as the justification I have always hoped for-- and I do precisely what Adam Silver did yesterday: I garner the support of the other team owners, spell out exactly how Sterling has violated his relationship with the league, and hand out a punishment that removes him from affiliation with the NBA in any way, shape, or form. Is the declared punishment heavy-handed? If it were for this single offense, perhaps yes, but this punishment encompasses much more than that, I assure you-- it is retribution for all the accumulated years of Mr. Sterling simply being an *******. Adam Silver is doing everything in his power to take the most from Sterling he possibly can, because he finally has the power and the justification to take any action at all.

Don Sterling, in the meantime, in the aftermath of the eventual sale of the Clippers franchise, will walk away with hundreds of millions of dollars. His wife will stay with him for his money, and he will keep his business empire and his possessions. Gold-digging women will still climb into bed with him, and tolerate his bigotry, in exchange for a piece of it. He can and will continue to say whatever he wants to whomever he wants, and karma will continue to bite him in the ***-- because it looks like it's finally caught up with the old *******.