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Houston, Golden State appreciation thread, yes I said it.... A+ for effort

It'll get better. Maybe not rightaway, but throughout the season, we will see a different Jazz than the last year.

I would think we would have to see a different team compared to last year. They can't get much worse. To all the real Jazz fans out there, answer these question for me with total honesty based off of the last 15 years of managements decisions. (yes I am aware that our staff has changed) Are the Jazz more interested in not loosing the most games, or are they interested in building a championship contender?? If you say championship contender please state the facts that make you say that.
 
I would think we would have to see a different team compared to last year. They can't get much worse. To all the real Jazz fans out there, answer these question for me with total honesty based off of the last 15 years of managements decisions. (yes I am aware that our staff has changed) Are the Jazz more interested in not loosing the most games, or are they interested in building a championship contender?? If you say championship contender please state the facts that make you say that.
Its tough to say. probably more about being profitable but i do remember that they were big spenders (even going above the luxury tax) with that boozer, d-will, ak, memo team.
 
The Jazz??
We kept Tyrone Corbin around knowing that we were not going to offer him a contract instead of firing him in the season like we should have.

Yeah, three months would have made a difference with a bench warmer/jockey.

We hold one of the highest available salary money out of any team in the league, but have yet to get into the conversation of bringing an elite player to the franchise.
**Not saying that we would have been successful***
But,,, we could have made a pitch to Bosh, James, Deng, Love, hell,,, even Ariza. We could have done something!!!

Who says the Jazz haven't? Being as tight lipped as the organization is, you know they haven't reached out them or their agents? Oh, the last time we were successful?

Carlos Boozer.

Instead we sit and state that we will offer a max to Hayward??? WTH??? This is our plan to get better??

The Jazz stated they intend to match any offer. They didn't offer Hayward the Max. Semantics, but it is an important distinction.

How long do you need to realize that you suck and changes need to be made??? We are hoping that our drafts will work out, while other teams are adding veterans to help their draft picks out.
Quite frankly I would trade Hayward for a new ball boy. Put him on a team with talent and he's a 6th man at best.

You'll get no argument from me, but being in the market that we are; it takes time to build a winner. The Jazz weren't instantly better after drafting Stockton and Malone; drafting Deron and signing Boozer, etc. Hell, even San Antonio took time to build, and most of their core was draft picks. You have to give things time. We have a new coach, a good young core, and a direction. Just let it work out.

As far as Hayward, that's an argument for another 1000 threads.
 
DL keeps stating that he won't skip steps. Yes, this is maddening that he isn't pushing the gas yet, but if you do it too early, you end up with too many vets and the youngsters don't get enough burn. Be patient my Padawan. You need to believe in DL's plan because it's already started and there is no turning back at this point.
 
I agree with you to an extent. But when your stashing cash space and winning less than 30 games in a season, I would say make a change, or spend some money.

Good gawd. We were 43-39 and then decided to rebuild. ONE year of 25 wins.
How many wins did the Lakers and Boston have? Those are teams that "always" contend, right?
What was the trajectory of OKC. Care to cite their record during their rebuilding years?
 
Ive been patient since 1989. Just to bring you up to speed, THE JAZZ HAVE ZERO CHAMPIONSHIPS. How long have you been patient for??

You and fans of 22 other NBA teams.

Since 1989, only 8 different teams in 26 years have won titles (Chicago 6x, San Antonio and LA Lakers 5x each, Detroit and Miami 3x each, Houston 2x and Dallas and Boston). One of the teams you cite, Golden State, has torn down and rebuilt their roster more times than I can count. I grew up in the Bay Area and it was an endless swap of this player for that one. Kudos to the current owner for choosing some stability and trying to let them develop together now. May not work (it didn't for Stockton and Malone), but I applaud him for sticking to his guns and not trading Thompson and the farm for Love.

Utah won a title for me back when I was a little boy. One of the leaders on that team was Ron Boone. I realize the Stars have actually zero to do with the Jazz, but it was fan support of the ABA team that made Battistone believe SLC could be a viable market for the New Orleans Jazz.
 
Houston? Yes, they won titles in 1994 and 1995, the years we were all thinking Utah should have snuck in and won titles while Jordan was chasing fast balls in the dirt.
And the "genius" that is (was?) Daryl Morey. After acquiring all those assets, what has it amounted to? He just got royally screwed. Now what? I think he still has to do the Lin trade. He alienated Lin by putting Melo in his jersey number during the recruitment process. Maybe the Asik deal is rescinded? Match Parsons and he's over the cap. That roster is set and not contending.
 
Houston? Yes, they won titles in 1994 and 1995, the years we were all thinking Utah should have snuck in and won titles while Jordan was chasing fast balls in the dirt.
And the "genius" that is (was?) Daryl Morey. After acquiring all those assets, what has it amounted to? He just got royally screwed. Now what? I think he still has to do the Lin trade. He alienated Lin by putting Melo in his jersey number during the recruitment process. Maybe the Asik deal is rescinded? Match Parsons and he's over the cap. That roster is set and not contending.

I think the Lin reade is a done deal to the Lalers
 
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