Yao had maybe the most diverse offensive skillset of any center, as he could play in the post, take complete advantage of his size, and step out and hit the three, but I am not sure he was as offensively aggressive and willing to put his team on his shoulders like Shaq, Kareem, Ewing, Wilt, Hakeen, etc. could and did.
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Yao had maybe the most diverse offensive skillset of any center, as he could play in the post, take complete advantage of his size, and step out and hit the three, but I am not sure he was as offensively aggressive and willing to put his team on his shoulders like Shaq, Kareem, Ewing, Wilt, Hakeen, etc. could and did.
QuinSnydersHair
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Yao was so adept at stepping out and hitting the three that he hit two in his entire career.
spycam1
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It's your own damn fault, you're the one who started this retarded conversation by saying Yao was a top 5 offensive center of all time, not that he was the top 5 "most skilled" offensively.
i stand by what i said. this is not a career debate. and i'm only going by his short lived 40-50 games 'i'm about to enter my prime' prime. yes, that's a barely half a season. i can do that because we are just speculating for this hypothetical nba draft. in that short stretch yao wasn't 'terrible'. lol terrible player doesn't put up 25pts in 33 min. he was so great that even with his physical limitation he still put up 25pt. that's greatness.
yao was 7ft 6 pau gasol with mchale like footwork.
you guys have no idea how great yao could've been.
QuinSnydersHair
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Is this the All-Time Hypothetical NBA Draft?
Coach Ellis
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Jordan vs. Wade would have been a really fun matchup.
spycam1
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Wasn't it you who also said Aaron Harrison would be a top 5 pick in the 2014 draft?
obviously. because guys like brandon roy, ralph sampson are in it. sampson never even reached his prime. we have no idea how great sampson could've been. akeem's presence slowed his progress down. who knows sampson could've been the next kareem?
it's all speculation. in that short span, yao made me to think that he could eventually be a 30/10 guy in 3 years. i drew that conclusion because i looked around the league. league was changing. there is no dominant center left anymore. in the west, it would've been yao vs. bynum and rest of the league would be just a bunch of small team with stretch 4/5. and it seemed realistic because yao's stamina was actually getting better and tmac just couldn't find his offensive mojo anymore with his back problem. so rockets would've been heavily dependent on yao's offense and tmac's playmaking ability. 30/10 was not as unrealistic as most would think.
but of course crap happened and yao was never the same.
anyway, if that really happened yao would've been the first center to avg 30/10 since Kareem did it in 1975.
i think i said top 10 is a possibility if he measures well in the draft process. but we all have hits and misses, don't we? i was 100% convinced that greg oden would be the next big thing. i also was totally convinced that telfair would be a good player. i thought blake griffin would be a total flop.
well that's why i'm just an armchair guy.
but i also said mitch mcgary is a clearly a 1st rounder and will eventually be better than kanter. i got laughed at for saying that. and i still stand by it. mcgary has better basketball IQ, better hands, and has ability to run and still be nasty. i see him becoming bill laimbeer type. true enforcer with bbiq. kanter? i see him being a career disappointment. i'm not optimistic about kanter. i was also very high on guys like paul george. too bad he broke his leg.
wade has absolutely nothing on MJ. i mean MJ gets whatever he wants. this is my all time dream matchup. 'how MJ abused wade' edition
Stifle Tower
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If you take the best 1-2 years of AK and Ming, you can certainly make a case. Ming was plagued by injuries and AK by Russian novels.
Not sure what the rules are: do you judge by overall careers, or just by each player at his peak?
I simply can't vote against a backcourt of the GOAT and the Big O.
Not sure what the rules are: do you judge by overall careers, or just by each player at his peak?
I simply can't vote against a backcourt of the GOAT and the Big O.
spycam1
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People over-romanticize the past.
Oscar was great for the development of the game of basketball and was incredible for his time, but that doesn't mean he would be able to dominate the greatest defender at the PG position ever in Gary Payton.
Hotdog
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I can't believe I'm losing this. Those who voted against me should be ashamed. Your basketball acumen is lacking.
Jordan and Oscar's skills overlap each other.
AK can't shoot
Yao Ming = Al Jefferson
Payton would give Oscar a hard time. Payton was known to be one of the better defenders on Jordan.
In all seriousness. Derrick Rose is one of the best players in this match up and he doesn't get any love. I just don't think people understand how good he is minus the injures.
Jordan and Oscar's skills overlap each other.
AK can't shoot
Yao Ming = Al Jefferson
Payton would give Oscar a hard time. Payton was known to be one of the better defenders on Jordan.
In all seriousness. Derrick Rose is one of the best players in this match up and he doesn't get any love. I just don't think people understand how good he is minus the injures.
Would Gary Payton be the greatest defender ever with the new rules making perimeter defense harder?
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I haven't cast a vote for any of this nonsense, but your bitching made me LOL and consider voting against you.
oscar will be a dominant player in any era IMO. one of those very rare 60's player who are transcendent talent. 6ft 5 220lb guy who was built like a tank with fadeway jumper and post up game. it's hard to guard guys like oscar. i don't even think MJ would completely lock down oscar. oscar just was a master. he could should off the pivot at will.
oscar can release his jump shots from various angles. and he had that weird body type that is not common in PG position. if you look at his body, he is built like MMA guys. all functional muscle. whenever i think of 'big o', i always think of 'big boned'. he just had that natural thickness to him. and i really can't find his weakness. he didn't shoot 3s because nobody shot 3s. outside of that, what's his real weakness? i really can't think of any. he will be bigger than any PG he will face except magic. he can post up against any PG including glove. he is just a perfect player.
very simple player i might add, but IMO simple always wins in the game of basketball. if you think about all the great players are simple. tim duncan is epitome of simple. john stockton too. oscar doesn't know half the moves kyrie irving has. oscar has no additives. but i think it will work in today's nba. 6ft 5 chauncey billups with much better rebounding, shooting, post up game, and playmaking ability is my guess.
so disrespectful. i'll take oscar robertson easily over wade or rose. if i need PG i take oscar. if i need center i take drob. i'm not taking vince friggin carter over friggin oscar. i mean, what can vince carter do better? jumping high? that's about it. manu? did you really say manu? i'm about shoot myself with a shot gun. i have absolutely no reason to stay on this earth. manu & oscar. manu & oscar. somebody give me a shot gun.
Hotdog
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Derrick Rose would eat Oscars lunch.
Just watch the world cup. You can't tell me that dude isn't one of the baddest dudes to ever play this game.
Minus the injuries. He's the 3rd best player in today's game right now. Heck, even with the injures. I'm still taking him 3rd. If Kobe is right, then it's Kobe. But Rose is no worse than the 4th best player right now.
1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Rose.
I swear to god. Rose would average 50 in the 60's. They would all wet the bed trying to stop him.
It's so crazy too cuz a lot of people got picked before Rose. Does anyone besides Fabtrey disagree that Rose is the 3rd best player in the NBA? I'm counting Kobe and Wade as over the hill. If we are talking prospects then I might put Anthony Davis just above him. Maybe not. It's close. But I can't think of someone else. Nobody else is as dominant as Rose is. Westbrook makes dumb decisions. Chris Paul is limited physically. Harden doesn't play defense. Steph is limited physically. I'm not say these players suck. I'm just saying. Rose is just better. He won the league MVP at the youngest age ever. Over guys like Lebron and Durant. Why do you think that happened?
Why the **** do I have to explain this? Fabtrey open your ****ing eyes. Stop believing in tall tales. Look at the tape bro. That silly bs they called basketball back in the day wouldn't fly in this era or the most recent eras.
Go look at every sport and every competition. Man has gotten considerably better at everything. It's indisputable.
Just watch the world cup. You can't tell me that dude isn't one of the baddest dudes to ever play this game.
Minus the injuries. He's the 3rd best player in today's game right now. Heck, even with the injures. I'm still taking him 3rd. If Kobe is right, then it's Kobe. But Rose is no worse than the 4th best player right now.
1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Rose.
I swear to god. Rose would average 50 in the 60's. They would all wet the bed trying to stop him.
It's so crazy too cuz a lot of people got picked before Rose. Does anyone besides Fabtrey disagree that Rose is the 3rd best player in the NBA? I'm counting Kobe and Wade as over the hill. If we are talking prospects then I might put Anthony Davis just above him. Maybe not. It's close. But I can't think of someone else. Nobody else is as dominant as Rose is. Westbrook makes dumb decisions. Chris Paul is limited physically. Harden doesn't play defense. Steph is limited physically. I'm not say these players suck. I'm just saying. Rose is just better. He won the league MVP at the youngest age ever. Over guys like Lebron and Durant. Why do you think that happened?
Why the **** do I have to explain this? Fabtrey open your ****ing eyes. Stop believing in tall tales. Look at the tape bro. That silly bs they called basketball back in the day wouldn't fly in this era or the most recent eras.
Go look at every sport and every competition. Man has gotten considerably better at everything. It's indisputable.