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Central tank command : the official thread

Eenie-Meenie said:
You may have a point about lapses (saw some last night on defense) -- but Jordan also didn't play point guard in his youth. Watch the clips of young. His intensity developed as he matured. So, you may be right about the mature Jordan. No one play with more intensity.
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What does playing PG have to do with defensive lapses. All positions can make them.

Does rookie Mitchell play with more intensity than rookie Jordan? Maybe. But we only have 30ish games to judge Mitchell by and a whole career to judge Jordan on.
 
Stoked said:
He didn't take it out of context. You literally said and I quote "He plays with more intensity than Jordan and he seems tireless, as if he's playing within himself." Perhaps that is not what you mean but it is clearly what you said.
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You may have a point about lapses (saw some last night on defense) -- but Jordan also didn't play point guard in his youth. Watch the clips of young. His intensity developed as he matured.
Stoked said:
What does playing PG have to do with defensive lapses. All positions can make them.
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There's a lot more to consider when you're point guard, to learn.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
You may have a point about lapses (saw some last night on defense) -- but Jordan also didn't play point guard in his youth. Watch the clips of young. His intensity developed as he matured.

There's a lot more to consider when you're point guard, to learn.
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Stoked said:
What does playing PG have to do with defensive lapses. All positions can make them.

Does rookie Mitchell play with more intensity than rookie Jordan? Maybe. But we only have 30ish games to judge Mitchell by and a whole career to judge Jordan on.
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In any case, sure I may be over-the-top with my views on Mitchell. But I'm an enthusiastic fan. Better than being a negative nanny.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
You may have a point about lapses (saw some last night on defense) -- but Jordan also didn't play point guard in his youth. Watch the clips of young. His intensity developed as he matured.

There's a lot more to consider when you're point guard, to learn.
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And the lapse I was referencing was not when Mitchell was playing PG or defending one. His man was in the corner for a 3 and stationary. Mitchell ball watched and his man cut to the basket for an easy score. Had nothing to do with PG play. But I digress.

Either way Mitchell is a stud and I only referenced it to highlight the clear growth Mitchell will still have. His potential ceiling is insane.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
Archie, you're not a very discriminating reader -- i.e., you take things out of context. I never said he is the next Jordan, just that he has a similar mindset. Look at some early Jordan and you will see, I think, less maturity than the present-day Mitchell. Jordan's drive pushed him as he matured and he became the assassin that made him so great.
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Hmm.
Did EM say Mitchell plays with more intensity than Jordan? Yes.

Did AM say EM said Mitchell is the next Jordan? No.

You can't read worth ****.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
Archie, you're not a very discriminating reader -- i.e., you take things out of context. I never said he is the next Jordan, just that he has a similar mindset. Look at some early Jordan and you will see, I think, less maturity than the present-day Mitchell. Jordan's drive pushed him as he matured and he became the assassin that made him so great.
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Speaking of not knowing how to read...
 
Let's just stop with the Mitchell/Jordan comparisons. Jordan was arguably the best (or 2nd best) player EVER.

I'm just going to enjoy DM for who he is, for the life he's pumped into a team that had it's heart ripped out (from being potential contender to knowing they'd struggle to just make the playoffs). And for the love he gave the city and state from the day he first worked out for the Jazz. And now, getting respect from just about every superstar he plays against.

Have no idea if it will translate, but Stockton, Malone and Sloan never seemed to get the love that Mitchell, Gobert and Snyder get. Let's hope significant FA's will want to play for Utah (not talking stars, just very good players who will give Utah consideration, instead of the "you go play there" mindset).
 
As for the "tank," Utah will never intentionally lose. But i'm actually hoping the Jazz miss the playoffs and get a pick in the 10-12 range. Looking at mocks, i see some very good prospects who would be BPA's as well as potentially filling a position of need. Down in the 15-18 range, I see more wings listed, which the Jazz don't necessarily need...unless neither Hood nor Dante return and Burks is traded.
 
Its like a tug of war. Tank vs Playoffs. Back and forth, back and forth.

At the moment I can't tell which side is going to win, but I find the struggle entertaining.
 
The December schedule will win.
January will also be tough: 8 of 13 on the road. Not as many "elite" teams as December, but still some very tough games.

My prediction is Jazz go 2-5 for rest of December and 6-7 in January.
An overall record of 22-28 heading into Feb would definitely put some water in the tank.
 
Jack Strop said:
The December schedule will win.
January will also be tough: 8 of 13 on the road. Not as many "elite" teams as December, but still some very tough games.

My prediction is Jazz go 2-5 for rest of December and 6-7 in January.
An overall record of 22-28 heading into Feb would definitely put some water in the tank.
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Clips, Cavs, Nets, and Lakers are all 6 or more games under .500. The tank is dead. We can't move much lower than 12 and 10 or 11 is seriously unlikely.

Maybe the Clips can pass if Blake comes back, but I think they hold him out. The win streak buried the tank.

the Bulls though are in danger of going from 1st to 6 or 7th and that is just terrible for their future.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Clips, Cavs, Nets, and Lakers are all 6 or more games under .500. The tank is dead. We can't move much lower than 12 and 10 or 11 is seriously unlikely.

Maybe the Clips can pass if Blake comes back, but I think they hold him out. The win streak buried the tank.

the Bulls though are in danger of going from 1st to 6 or 7th and that is just terrible for their future.
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The tank lives!
 
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