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You're the GM this offseason. What do you do?

idestroyedthetoilet said:
Substantially improve the team or improve draft position. There is absolutely zero reason to continue win now mode with a fifth seed at best.

OKC has two MVP caliber players. Cant get close.
Houston has an MVP and a one time MVP candidate (should have won). Cant get close.
Utah doesnt have an all star, and the closest thing to a scoring threat will never be more than a 2nd tier all star.

They need to let the failed build die a quick death so it's degradation can fertilize a fast rebounding new crop.
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Names. Who?

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We need another great player on this roster. We all know that. If we don't get one in free agency, we gotta trade for one.

I still have my eye on Justise Winslow. I think we have what it takes to get him. If Tobias, Kemba and other huge targets don't happen, I want to go all in on getting him.

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Handlogten's Heros said:
Portland has a hard time keeping Aminu and Harkless on the floor... both are better three shooters than Favs but they can’t dribble... we need guys that can shoot, create, and/or dribble... or they need to be the best defensive player in the league or lead the league in FG percentage to be viable with our other starters.
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We need Aminu
 
LoPo said:
We need another great player on this roster. We all know that. If we don't get one in free agency, we gotta trade for one.

I still have my eye on Justise Winslow. I think we have what it takes to get him. If Tobias, Kemba and other huge targets don't happen, I want to go all in on getting him.

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You start of a premise of needing great players. Then your big reveal is Justice Winslow?

Like, but why?
 
LoPo said:
Names. Who?

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Kawhi, Kyrie, Kevin, Kemba would be enough hope.

Kemba or Conley would be enough 2nd round hype.

Everyone else is lipstick on a pig. If you're gonna put lipstick on a pig at least buy designer lipstick. Your dumb *** rolling back Derrick Favors idea is dollar store lipstick on a pig. It's not even Red Queen good, running on a treadmill forever just to stay in the same place. They already got worse last season, you want to do that another year while other teams improve? No thanks, cook the damn pig and eat it.
 
Jingled said:
We should've just traded for Conley at the deadline. I'll be really surprised if we're able to get a player as good as he is in the offseason. Opportunities to land that level of player don't come around very often, especially for a small market team like us.
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I’m glad we didn’t trade for Conley. He’s getting up in age and ridiculously over priced. I think we can get someone to come over. Conley isn’t the guy
 
Thee jazz fan said:
I’m glad we didn’t trade for Conley. He’s getting up in age and ridiculously over priced. I think we can get someone to come over. Conley isn’t the guy
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Conley’s production last year was worth his contract. Just because he isn’t 21 doesn’t mean he’s not good.
 
LoPo said:
If we get Love, I really hope it isn't before free agency. I think that would lead to a fan uprising. If we got Love before we even found out if we could get Kemba or Tobias, fans would be irate.

If we strike out on everything but still decide to let Rubio walk, we could trade Korver, Bradley and our cap space for Love.
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If when you say fans you mean jazzfanz, yeah maybe, but the majority of jazz fans are like me, they LOVE anything the front office flings at them.
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
Kawhi, Kyrie, Kevin, Kemba would be enough hope.

Kemba or Conley would be enough 2nd round hype.

Everyone else is lipstick on a pig. If you're gonna put lipstick on a pig at least buy designer lipstick. Your dumb *** rolling back Derrick Favors idea is dollar store lipstick on a pig. It's not even Red Queen good, running on a treadmill forever just to stay in the same place. They already got worse last season, you want to do that another year while other teams improve? No thanks, cook the damn pig and eat it.
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Okay, so the top tier free agents or two overpaid injury prone guys.

Well, I don't think we will get a top tier and don't think we should take on Love or Conley. I would rather keep Favors at 1/3 the cost of Conley or Love.

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NUMBERICA said:
Wait, seriously? What?

You’re worshipping your own bull **** again, dude.
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Dude what?

I have said all along. Waive Favors and re-sign him to $12 or $13 per year.

Conley makes $34 and $36 the next two years. And we would have to lose an asset or two to get him. No thanks.

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LoPo said:
Dude what?

I have said all along. Waive Favors and re-sign him to $12 or $13 per year.

Conley makes $34 and $36 the next two years. And we would have to lose an asset or two to get him. No thanks.

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1 - Favors ain’t signing for that
2 - Favors is basically part of the problem, he provides basically nothing we don’t already have too much of
3 - Conley is a great player at a position of serious need
4 - we are very much in win now mode

We’re just going in circles at this point. But on the topic of going in circles; that’s exactly why we need to move the **** on from Favors.
 
LoPo said:
Okay, so the top tier free agents or two overpaid injury prone guys.

Well, I don't think we will get a top tier and don't think we should take on Love or Conley. I would rather keep Favors at 1/3 the cost of Conley or Love.

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I’d rather sign Kyle O Quinn at 1/3 of your price for Favors (that has as much chance of happening as us signing Tobias imo).

I know Favs is a fan favorite... I will root for him... say other offers are similar to our 3/36 you propose... is he going to choose another team or stay here... where he is underutilized and likely to be traded at some point... my guess is he’s take less to start for teams like Dallas either LA team or just some team that can start him at center... he’d be more likely to pick and stay at his prefered destination.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I’d rather sign Kyle O Quinn at 1/3 of your price for Favors (that has as much chance of happening as us signing Tobias imo).

I know Favs is a fan favorite... I will root for him... say other offers are similar to our 3/36 you propose... is he going to choose another team or stay here... where he is underutilized and likely to be traded at some point... my guess is he’s take less to start for teams like Dallas either LA team or just some team that can start him at center... he’d be more likely to pick and stay at his prefered destination.
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We are really going around in circles here.

I've been very clear - I don't think we should bring Favors back at $18 million and I don't think any team picks up his $18 million deal. So if Favors wants to come back, he'll sign with us at that proposed $12-13 number I've been throwing out there. I think it's completely fair. I do not expect a large number of suitors to offer Favors more than the full MLE ($8.5-9 million). If some team offers him a deal making a little more than what we want to offer or a starting job, it's on Favors if he wants to stay or go.

If he decides to leave even though we put a fair contract on the table, I'm not losing any sleep over losing Derrick Favors.

I still feel like it's in the realm of possibility that Favors is our starting center one day. I love Rudy. I do. But in two offseasons he could decide he wants super max money (due to DPOY or All NBA), I'm passing on that. If we sign Favors for 3 years this offseason, we will have a little more negotiating power in a couple summers. Sure, Gobert is better, but I believe Favors could be our starting center and we would still be solid.
 
Stoked said:
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You start of a premise of needing great players. Then your big reveal is Justice Winslow?

Like, but why?
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I think Winslow is a really good, comprehensive player. He's only 22 years old and has really blossomed the last couple years. He's not a "super star" type guy, but I think he could be a great robin to Donovan's batman.

Miami is in a tricky spot. They are mediocre. They have a ton of contracts for 2019-20 so they can't improve this summer. They don't have their 2021 pick and they've already said they plan on spending big in summer 2020. They would be best served to tank next season especially if they can dump some of their contracts which go past summer 2020 (Waiters, Olynyk, Johnson).

They probably don't want to lose Winslow, but they probably also realize that he's not the type guy you build a franchise around. For us, Winslow becomes a great addition at 3 or even small ball 4. He can even run the point and he has shot close to 40% from 3 the last couple years.
 
LoPo said:
We are really going around in circles here.

I've been very clear - I don't think we should bring Favors back at $18 million and I don't think any team picks up his $18 million deal. So if Favors wants to come back, he'll sign with us at that proposed $12-13 number I've been throwing out there. I think it's completely fair. I do not expect a large number of suitors to offer Favors more than the full MLE ($8.5-9 million). If some team offers him a deal making a little more than what we want to offer or a starting job, it's on Favors if he wants to stay or go.

If he decides to leave even though we put a fair contract on the table, I'm not losing any sleep over losing Derrick Favors.

I still feel like it's in the realm of possibility that Favors is our starting center one day. I love Rudy. I do. But in two offseasons he could decide he wants super max money (due to DPOY or All NBA), I'm passing on that. If we sign Favors for 3 years this offseason, we will have a little more negotiating power in a couple summers. Sure, Gobert is better, but I believe Favors could be our starting center and we would still be solid.
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Agree to disagree... I don't think Favs on a 3/30-36M is the worst idea in the world, but I don't see it as something feasible given the hoops we'd have to go through. I'd rather go a different direction... If Rudy leaves then we find a solid replacement then.
 
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