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The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

Regarding the question of whether Trump has asked for help investigating corruption by someone other than his political rivals:



So is Biden really a political opponent if he hasn't even earned the nomination of his party yet?
 
But he's not even the nominee. I could understand the train of thought more if he had secured the nomination already.

He's just playing the odds, and Biden was the frontrunner. He'll hit harder on Warren and Sanders soon, and whoever else crops up. What did you think he was going to do, wait until the last few weeks of the election cycle? He's still fighting the Hillary battles after all.
 
You're stretching really hard here.

No I am not. I get the perspective that he is technically a political rival but as of today, he hasn't won the nomination and things look to be trending Warren's way to me so I just don't buy into as much. He's just a former corrupt VP as of now.
 
He's just playing the odds, and Biden was the frontrunner. He'll hit harder on Warren and Sanders soon, and whoever else crops up. What did you think he was going to do, wait until the last few weeks of the election cycle? He's still fighting the Hillary battles after all.

The whole Left is still fighting Hillary battles. Complete and utter denial for 3 years and counting. Could you imagine if they had just accepted the results of the election the way they begged Trump to do as a nominee? My goodness how much better as a country we would be.
 
You’re here so why don’t you go first?
I don't like Trump. I've never said a kind word about him. I don't hate the guy either though. I think the country is running pretty damn good but he could be so much more if he'd preach unity instead of me vs you narcissistic ******** but it's just who he is. I'm tired of the divisive rhetoric from all sides and Trump is as guilty as they come.

Do I lose sleep over him? No. This country is fine(hurt but fine) and will be fine after Trump. What you guys are doing to Trump with your fear mongering is no different than what the right did with Obama and the whole Islamic Jihadist bull ****. It's just a whole nother level with the Democrats. It's constant and obsessive.
 
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What about the part where the Ukraine president said it didn't happen? Completely forget about that part don't ya? This is nothing more than being mad 3+ later that the Democrats lost. A bunch of poor sport children who know that the only way they can win is by impeachment. Sadly if that were not the case Democrats would be doing their jobs.

What about it? It's a data point that should be considered, but isn't the end of the story at all.

You didn't answer my question. What would it take for you to ok a full investigation?
 
No I am not. I get the perspective that he is technically a political rival but as of today, he hasn't won the nomination and things look to be trending Warren's way to me so I just don't buy into as much. He's just a former corrupt VP as of now.

When asked today if Trump had launched an anti-corruption investigation in another country that didn’t involve his political rivals, he stumbled over an answer and said, “I’d have to think about it.”

So obviously, we know what the answer is.

Ukraine isn’t even in the top 50 most corrupt countries rated by the CPI. If corruption was really a priority, why wouldn’t he make the corruption found in Iraq, Afghanistan, Russia, North Korea, and Saudi Arabia a priority? All of those countries are ranked worse in corruption than Ukraine.

In May Rudy Guiliani said this about the Ukrainian investigation:

Within days of her ouster on May 9, Giuliani seemed determined to seize an unsanctioned diplomatic role for himself, announcing plans to travel to Ukraine to push for investigations that would “be very, very helpful to my client, and may turn out to be helpful to my government.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...18aaec-deec-11e9-be96-6adb81821e90_story.html

It’s already been documented by his own personal lawyer, his own diplomats, by his own communications with Ukraine, and by his own mouth in the past week why he directed investigations in Ukraine. Why else were they putting his communications with these leaders on a classified server?

He directed investigations to hurt political rivals and help himself politically. Just because Warren might end up being the nominee doesn’t mean that Trump hasn’t grossly abused his power in office. Really it doesn’t matter who ends up being the Democratic nominee, Trump has committed impeachable offenses that have hurt our country.

Oh and now here’s this:



Trump’s personal goals seeped into calls. He pestered Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe for help in recommending him for a Nobel Prize, according to an official familiar with the call.

“People who could do things for him — he was nice to,” said one former security official. “Leaders with trade deficits, strong female leaders, members of NATO — those tended to go badly.”

Again, this is a gross abuse of power, a betrayal of our country, and an impeachable offense. He’s unfit for office no matter who emerges as the eventual Democratic nominee.
 
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The whole Left is still fighting Hillary battles. Complete and utter denial for 3 years and counting. Could you imagine if they had just accepted the results of the election the way they begged Trump to do as a nominee? My goodness how much better as a country we would be.

Could you define, “the left” for me? Progressives? Never Trumpers? How about republicans who criticize Trump?
 
What about it? It's a data point that should be considered, but isn't the end of the story at all.

You didn't answer my question. What would it take for you to ok a full investigation?
Something more than a text and a whistleblower who wasn't even at the scene. A whistleblower who has every luxury to remain anonymous all while putting the entire country in an uproar. Look at Russia and how absolutely nothing came out of it after all the money, discontent, and distractions. You can only cry wolf so many damn times and with you guys you're screaming wolf daily that's no exaggeration. Hell look at this thread wanting to Impeach Trump for nothing more than your guy's dislike.

This is not about laws being broke. If it were you'd be pressing your own party as well for things like rigging the DNC, getting dossiers from a foreign agent paid by Hillary, Obama spying on Trump, and questioning this whole Russia hoax. This is not about laws, this is derangement over losing an election. The #resist movement has been in place since day one. When you openly admit "he's not my president" and call out to resist pardon me for not buying the ********. I think a big part of the country feels the same. People want to vote against Trump but Democrats are giving us every reason to vote against the Democratic chaos.
 
Those claiming that this is nothing more than sour grapes are ignoring the deluge of information coming out on literally an hourly basis detailing Trump’s corruption. You’re free to have you own opinions. You’re not free to make up your own facts. This impeachment inquiry triggered by the whistleblower is legitimate. It’s bringing forth mounds of evidence of corruption and impeachable offenses.

Don’t call these nothing burgers or sour grapes for people who couldn’t accept election results 3 years ago. You’re insulting the patriots who are flushing their careers down the drain to serve their country and to promote then greater good.
 
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This reddit comment basically gets to the heart of what we're seeing with Trump supporters.

Seems like an appropriate time to reup this picture. Seeing the trumpers on here arguing that this is about sour grapes or about a whistleblower’s hearsay are ignoring the mountains of evidence that’s been uncovered in just one week. It’s important to remember that for these idiots, it’s not about evidence, morality, or common sense. It’s about admitting that they were wrong. These morons merely post here not to discuss this seriously, but to troll those of us who do.
 
Something more than a text and a whistleblower who wasn't even at the scene. A whistleblower who has every luxury to remain anonymous all while putting the entire country in an uproar. Look at Russia and how absolutely nothing came out of it after all the money, discontent, and distractions. You can only cry wolf so many damn times and with you guys you're screaming wolf daily that's no exaggeration. Hell look at this thread wanting to Impeach Trump for nothing more than your guy's dislike.

This is not about laws being broke. If it were you'd be pressing your own party as well for things like rigging the DNC, getting dossiers from a foreign agent paid by Hillary, Obama spying on Trump, and questioning this whole Russia hoax. This is not about laws, this is derangement over losing an election. The #resist movement has been in place since day one. When you openly admit "he's not my president" and call out to resist pardon me for not buying the ********. I think a big part of the country feels the same. People want to vote against Trump but Democrats are giving us every reason to vote against the Democratic chaos.

You still haven't honestly answered my question. What exactly would it take?
 
The whole Left is still fighting Hillary battles. Complete and utter denial for 3 years and counting. Could you imagine if they had just accepted the results of the election the way they begged Trump to do as a nominee? My goodness how much better as a country we would be.

Classic. The trumpsters are is obsessed with HRC. They need to let it go.
 
You still haven't honestly answered my question. What exactly would it take?
A lot. I really don't know. Honestly to me it's not worth the divide in this country. This has been my stance since I started posting politics here. I don't think Trump is the only president that has pushed his constitutional limits. President after president has done shady things. Obama, Bush(s), and Bill since I've been alive all have all done questionable **** and one could only imagine having people watching their every move. To think these guys are 100% diplomatic is completely naive. It's unfortunate that they're not but this is a planet were talking about. A planet of dirty *** politicians not just Trump.

If want to drain the swamp, let's drain the swamp. I'm just against draining the swamp with swamp. Let's divulge, I'm all for it but I just don't think he is this absolute Boogeyman(thanks fish) you make him out to be.

In my honest opinion you're angry because he beat you. You've been angry for 3 years. I can't hate you for your anger but the best thing you can do is focus on yourselves. I'd honestly be really nice if the left would get its **** together and go back to their roots. This anti-Trump, Green New Deal, Free, is just too damn much. And before you bring it up the Right is worse. I laugh because when I think of them I think of Ted Cruiz and Chris Christie. For whatever reason their stupid faces pop in my mind when thinking about the state of the party.
 
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