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Red said:
The White House signals it will not cooperate with the impeachment inquiry:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/08/us/politics/sondland-trump-ukraine-impeach.html

WASHINGTON — The White House all but declared war on the House impeachment inquiry on Tuesday, intervening for the first time to block the testimony of a key witness as President Trump signaled his administration would try to starve investigators of more witnesses and documents.

The decision to block Gordon D. Sondland, the United States ambassador to the European Union, from speaking with investigators for three House committees came just hours before he was to appear on Capitol Hill, provoking an immediate conflict with potentially profound consequences for the inquiry and for the president himself.

Mr. Trump, defiant as investigators dig further into his efforts to pressure Ukraine to find dirt on his political rivals, declared the inquiry illegitimate in a signal that he plans to stonewall Congress, an act that could itself build the case for charging him in an impeachment proceeding with obstruction.
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I'd swear he had two years to make friendly...
 
fishonjazz said:
So humans have made the Earth better for humans is your point. Well ya, I agree 100%. We have it better than the cavemen did.

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My point is that a world where only the deer and the antelope play, and never is heard a discouraging word, is pointless. Humans are funny because they vilify themselves so much. Human history has been filled with instances where humans believed they were on the verge of overpopulation and that they were having too great an impact on resources, but in every case they ended up inventing previously unimagined solutions to the problems they have faced, and created an ever higher standard of living in the process. Did you know that there was once panic in England because they believed they would soon run out of wood for furniture, homes and fire due to overpopulation? That oil bubbling up from the ground was once considered a nuicance? That there was a time that you couldn't even dream of sitting on your employers toilet while arguing politics with a stranger? As horrifying as these thoughts are, they are all true.
 
Red said:
The White House signals it will not cooperate with the impeachment inquiry:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/08/us/politics/sondland-trump-ukraine-impeach.html

WASHINGTON — The White House all but declared war on the House impeachment inquiry on Tuesday, intervening for the first time to block the testimony of a key witness as President Trump signaled his administration would try to starve investigators of more witnesses and documents.

The decision to block Gordon D. Sondland, the United States ambassador to the European Union, from speaking with investigators for three House committees came just hours before he was to appear on Capitol Hill, provoking an immediate conflict with potentially profound consequences for the inquiry and for the president himself.

Mr. Trump, defiant as investigators dig further into his efforts to pressure Ukraine to find dirt on his political rivals, declared the inquiry illegitimate in a signal that he plans to stonewall Congress, an act that could itself build the case for charging him in an impeachment proceeding with obstruction.
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It seems to me that completely stonewalling congress is not a strategy that is going to work out for them. Obviously Trump's base will eat it up, but to independents it's just going to look like they have something to hide.

They are even going so far as to argue that the courts ordered the Nixon White House to give congress too much information during the Watergate investigation.

Not sure "Nixon was screwed" is the hill I'd be looking to die on here.
 
This is exactly what the poor workin folks in rural Pennsylvania voted for, amiright? This will show them college edukated coastal elitists! #MAGA

 
Red said:
The White House signals it will not cooperate with the impeachment inquiry:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/08/us/politics/sondland-trump-ukraine-impeach.html

WASHINGTON — The White House all but declared war on the House impeachment inquiry on Tuesday, intervening for the first time to block the testimony of a key witness as President Trump signaled his administration would try to starve investigators of more witnesses and documents.

The decision to block Gordon D. Sondland, the United States ambassador to the European Union, from speaking with investigators for three House committees came just hours before he was to appear on Capitol Hill, provoking an immediate conflict with potentially profound consequences for the inquiry and for the president himself.

Mr. Trump, defiant as investigators dig further into his efforts to pressure Ukraine to find dirt on his political rivals, declared the inquiry illegitimate in a signal that he plans to stonewall Congress, an act that could itself build the case for charging him in an impeachment proceeding with obstruction.
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Supreme court, here we come.
 
Zombie said:


The impeachable offenses just keep stacking up.
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I bet Republican Congresspeople will certainly stand up for their own institutions against this blatant abuse of power by the executive. You know, since they love the constitution (especially the 2nd amendment) so much.
 
silesian said:
Supreme court, here we come.
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Annnnndddd therein lies the problem.

The Executive gets to pick the makeup of the court.
The Republican Senate has merely served as a rubber stamp for the Executive.
The Judicial is packed with Trump toadies. Now this branch acts to merely enforce the will of the Executive.

This is how democracies die! Good thing our votes don't matter and both parties are the same and voting is too hard I might miss part of a foot game by voting...
 
Zombie said:
It seems to me that completely stonewalling congress is not a strategy that is going to work out for them. Obviously Trump's base will eat it up, but to independents it's just going to look like they have something to hide.
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Narrator: they do have something to hide.
 
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