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I like Davis. I like Bradley. I miss Favors. With Royce and Bojan stepping up, I wish we had the Jingles/Favors for the bench unit.
 
rjfan said:
Davis defense been better than what i expected, but his offense, man, it gets hard to see, really bad, and probably worse to play with, considering his screens, rim rolling and fts...
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This is supported by his 76.5 OFFRTG and 92.5 DEFRTG. He has a team-low -16.1 NETRTG. Bojan, DM and Gobert lead the pack with similar NETRTGs (+18, +18, +16). Mudiay is next with +14 and there is a large gap. So early in the season but it's obvious Ed Davis and Mudiay have had contrasting starts to their Utah Jazz careers.
 
We will get the timing right on the pick and roll at some point... Ed and Rudy have struggled with turnovers and part of that is the ball handler putting them in bad situations. Once Conley clicks in to something close to normal I think we can make an assessment on what we need and don't need. Ed's primary responsibility is on the defensive side of the ball... he has done well there.
 
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Quin trusts Ed Davis to rebound, play defense and not make many mistakes. It's pretty obvious though that Davis can't really score much. I could see the Jazz put in Bradley to punish a team that plays small, but it would still probably be in a blow-out. It won't happen every night, but against some backups, Bradley can come in and put up 10/5 in less than 10 minutes.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
We will get the timing right on the pick and roll at some point... Ed and Rudy have struggled with turnovers and part of that is the ball handler putting them in bad situations. Once Conley clicks in to something close to normal I think we can make an assessment on what we need and don't need. Ed's primary responsibility is on the defensive side of the ball... he has done well there.
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Ball handlers need to stop trying bounce passes to Rudy and forcing passes to him 8 to 12 feet away from the rim. High entry passes near the rim is where it's at. Don't put him in tough spots.
 
I can't wait for Bradley to have more points than minutes played by the end of the season. . .
 
framer said:
I can't wait for Bradley to have more points than minutes played by the end of the season. . .
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Which means he isn't playing at all. But, four games in, he's played 10 minutes so far, so he's on pace to absolutely shatter the last two years' playing time totals.
 
infection said:
Which means he isn't playing at all. But, four games in, he's played 10 minutes so far, so he's on pace to absolutely shatter the last two years' playing time totals.
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I just think that Bradley will get time when the matchup is favorable to him. In those situations he could rip off a lot of points. I don't expect to see him face starters unless things have went really wrong for us. He's not going to supplant Ed Davis THIS year.
 
Bradley was head and shoulders above almost everyone in summer league, so he definitely deserves a shot in the regular season. Since DAVIS provides no rim protection and is only 6’9”, Bradley should help with backing up Gobert especially if opponent is having an easy time getting buckets at the rim with Gobert out, as the Lakers were.
 
ChicAggie said:
Conley has a severely negative NetRtg as seen here. Based on the "eye test," which one are you inclined to believe?

EDIT: My guess is the folks over at NBA.com couldn't believe that Conley's ORtg was in the high-60s, so they changed the 6 to a 9. No way his ORtg is 98.6.
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BBref's individual OFFRTG and DEFRTG measure something completely different. For BBRef, OFFRTG represents an estimate of the number of points the player scores per 100 possessions, whereas NBA.com's is showing how many points his team scores per 100 when he is on the floor. The BBref individual OFFRTG-DEFRTG is utterly useless. When people around mention those RTGs they always mean NBA versions.
 
jjscap said:
For BBRef, OFFRTG represents an estimate of the number of points the player scores per 100 possessions, whereas NBA.com's is showing how many points his team scores per 100 when he is on the floor. The BBref individual OFFRTG-DEFRTG is utterly useless. When people around mention those RTGs they always mean NBA versions.
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Disagree. BBRef uses an estimate of the number of points PRODUCED by the player per 100 possessions, not actually SCORED by the player per 100 possessions. Depending on the accuracy and methodology of the "estimate," this can be a significantly more useful measure of an individual player's value than how many points the team happens to score while a player is on the court -- which in some cases can be completely a function of the other four players on the court. (See, e.g., the very example we are discussing: It just doesn't pass the eye test that Conley has had a net positive impact on point production while on the court so far this season.)

While I agree with your conclusion that most people utilize the NBA.com numbers rather than BBRef, I tend to think it is because it is an easier website to navigate, sort, etc., and is an easier default, not that the numbers are better. Indeed, I'm not sure they are.
 
jjscap said:
This is supported by his 76.5 OFFRTG and 92.5 DEFRTG. He has a team-low -16.1 NETRTG. Bojan, DM and Gobert lead the pack with similar NETRTGs (+18, +18, +16). Mudiay is next with +14 and there is a large gap. So early in the season but it's obvious Ed Davis and Mudiay have had contrasting starts to their Utah Jazz careers.
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Honestly surprised to see Mudiay Net Rating so high, made me curious over his OFFRTG and DEFRTG :D
 
framer said:
I just think that Bradley will get time when the matchup is favorable to him. In those situations he could rip off a lot of points. I don't expect to see him face starters unless things have went really wrong for us. He's not going to supplant Ed Davis THIS year.
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Davis is on a one year deal. I think he could supplant him this year.
 
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