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JazzyFresh said:
I would consider Trump winning 2000+ to lmore counties a blowout. You look at an electorial map and it's absolutely 100% clear who a majority of the country chose outside of Cali and NY.
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You look at an electoral map weighted by population and is is abundantly clear the majority chose Clinton.

It should be enough for you Tumpers that Trump won. Why do you need to lie about getting the majority vote?
 
JazzyFresh said:
I would consider Trump winning 2000+ to lmore counties a blowout. You look at an electorial map and it's absolutely 100% clear who a majority of the country chose outside of Cali and NY.
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This would be an excellent point if we voted by the square mile.

In actuality, Trump LOST the popular vote by about 3 million.
 
The Thriller said:
why do you think Bloomberg staying doesn’t significantly hurt Biden? What does Bloomberg get from staying? Certainly he doesn’t have a path for victory, right?
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So I waited until we saw the Super Tuesday results but I believe they support my opinions on this.

In reverse order - Bloomberg 'winning' is neither Bernie or Warren being nominated, either him or far more likely Biden.

What Bloomberg gets by staying is getting a chance to see if Biden is strong enough to win a head to head vs Bernie after the other moderates dropped out. The data through South Carolina was at best inconclusive and at worst probably favored Bernie. Obviously it also hurts his ego less to not have to drop out before even officially participating in a vote.

What we got on Tuesday was a narrow win from Biden (53% v 47% with most remaining delegates from states Bernie won - looking at AP results), apparently enough for Bloomberg to feel safe about Biden winning it. I haven't looked into it by state or by district or anything, but if Biden did really well with Bloomberg voters (say picking up 90%) you're looking at maybe a +40 delegate swing vs Bernie (likely comparable to the margin that could now go Warren to Bernie as well). You could argue that's significant harm to Biden, but that's a pretty tough sell to me. So Bloomberg got to stay in to confirm Biden can beat Bernie to head (probably), at very little cost to Biden in actual delegate margin. If Biden couldn't outperform Bernie head to head it would've been in Bloombergs best interest to stay in even further to split the total vote as much as possible to keep anyone from a majority at the 1st round of the convention.

Personally I'm still not sure if dropping was the right move for Bloomberg (well, I think he should've waited for Warren 1st), just because I don't think Bernie could've resisted a multi-billionaire target on stage and now he leaves him alone with Biden, which is certainly a much higher variance situation that leaves Biden more open.
 
After a little further thought, I will say I think Warren's remaining support probably only breaks slightly for Bernie (say 60/40). Most of the 'progressives' had already broken for the leading progressive much as most 'moderates' had already broken for Biden.

If I give Biden an 80/20 edge for Bloomberg supporters and Bernie a 60/40 for Warren (this could change notably if she endorses one way or the other). That would've given us a +22 Biden margin on ST relative to what we got, not really a significant change to the race.
 
One Brow said:
I don't think my support or lack thereof offers any sort of help or hurt to factions in Latin America.

While the Nazis were far and away worse, Americans still engaged in oppression. How does taking the side of one oppressor help the oppressed?
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sometimes you need to amplify how insanely dumb a take is in order to send the message. Here u go, contrabrow.
 
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