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The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

Love the defense of Trump that all of the negative stuff is just made up.

I don't need anything other than the words that have come out of Trump's mouth, uninterrupted, unfiltered, in their full context, to know how I feel about Trump.

Try again...

or actually don't. Just STFU if all you can do is offer intellectually dishonest arguments about how it's all the lying media's fault that I don't like Trump.
 
If 1,000 people a day were dying due to riots, law and order would be a bigger issue.

Anything to distract from a virus that is going nowhere.
 
Because I have been so focused, for several years now, on the un-American(or is it actually all too American?) nature of Trumpism, I, on occasion, find myself sliding toward the response described here, into a “**** it, nothing matters” state of mind, into someplace where I can somehow find some peace of mind, someplace to rest from this weary battle...I can’t be the only one, so some here may also relate to this essay....


“But here's the thing: Both reactions (disgust and indifference) express part of the whole truth — a truth that is actually more shocking than either part alone. Trump is in fact a thoroughly repulsive human being, and we all know that it won't matter because a sufficient number of Americans actively like or just don't care that he's a repulsive human being. Some of them probably like it because it triggers liberals like me, which is both entertaining and politically satisfying. Others probably like it because they are pretty repulsive themselves and enjoy having a champion in a position of power and influence who can truly represent them. Still others may not exactly like his repulsiveness but are perfectly willing to tune it out in return for getting concrete goodies in return: cuts to taxes and regulations, right-wing judges appointed to the courts, and so on.

But what am I supposed to do with this information about my fellow Americans? How should I respond — as a citizen, as a human being — to the knowledge that more than two-fifths of likely voters are cheered by or indifferent to the fact that the commander in chief thinks soldiers are chumps for giving their all for their country in acts of sacrificial valor?

Or that he was more concerned last winter about propping up the stock market than with protecting the country from a far greater danger than any of the ersatz threats he routinely hypes for political gain?

Or that so few appear to care that a significant portion of the country is on fire, turning its skies the color of blood and rust, and rendering the air a toxic fog of soot and ash — a vivid glimpse of the kind of world that awaits all of us if we continue to deny the reality of climate change?

What's the right response to this knowledge? The options often appear to be a stark either/or: Either a constant primal scream — or a cynical shrug of the shoulders. "Lol nothing matters" is the latter, and it's immensely tempting.

It's tempting for the same reason that mindfulness meditation is gaining in popularity. Both grow out of a desperate need to disconnect from the circus. To soothe the anxiety. To stand with composure before the uncertainties that encircle us. To stop caring quite so much, if only for a brief time, about a world that seems to be coming apart.”
 
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Who's the witness? What single shred of evidence do you have?

There are 5 witnesses who don't need to hide their name that claim this is a lie.

Mafioso defending the Don, duh. Wonder how many would testify to this under oath? Lying to the press is normal operating procedure for these cult members and it goes without saying that they have zero credibility,
 
I'm old enough to remember Trump from the 80's. He was a repulsive slime ball then, and he continues to be one today. His political affiliations have only ever been about his own convenience and search for influence and power. He's a con-man, grifter, charlatan, sociopath, racist, nihilist, and a narcissist. And you Trumpists KNOW it, but don't care because he's a direct reflection of YOU. He's got all these people in this country thinking he's some kind of conservative, but in reality he's malleable - he's going to be whatever serves his own ego and props up his power. First he tried his hand at being a democrat, but when that didn't work out for him he decided to masquerade as a "conservative" republican. Just look up his political donations over the years. He's all over the place just fishing. You think he gives a flying **** about conservative judges? Hell no. He couldn't give a **** who the judges are, outside of the ones that hear his own court cases. He's never been religious or patriotic, but he'll drape himself in flags and bibles and rhetoric for the optics alone to dupe the rubes of the GOP and whomever will take the bait. In a way, he is the exact embodiment of the GOP base - the ones who claim to be "christian", who go to church on Sunday just to be seen going to church, yet cannot practice what is preached to them because they don't truly believe it. I've lived among these people both in the deep south and in Utah. Strange how it's the regions that claim to be the most "christian" - they are the worst kind of hypocrites. I don't and never have had to rely on "the media" to tell me who Trump is; we've all been watching the Trump ****-show for over 40 years. His morals boil down to what is best for him, and to hell with anything else. He's going to make the next 6 weeks absolute chaos, and he's going to burn everything down that he can on the way. All you Trumpists - not "conservatives", not "Republicans", but Trumpists - here and everywhere, can right go **** yourselves in every hole available. I truly hope you reap what you have sown and your legacy burns in infamy for generations to come.

Too harsh? Yeah, eat a dick - I don't care.
 
I'm old enough to remember Trump from the 80's. He was a repulsive slime ball then, and he continues to be one today. His political affiliations have only ever been about his own convenience and search for influence and power. He's a con-man, grifter, charlatan, sociopath, racist, nihilist, and a narcissist. And you Trumpists KNOW it, but don't care because he's a direct reflection of YOU. He's got all these people in this country thinking he's some kind of conservative, but in reality he's malleable - he's going to be whatever serves his own ego and props up his power. First he tried his hand at being a democrat, but when that didn't work out for him he decided to masquerade as a "conservative" republican. Just look up his political donations over the years. He's all over the place just fishing. You think he gives a flying **** about conservative judges? Hell no. He couldn't give a **** who the judges are, outside of the ones that hear his own court cases. He's never been religious or patriotic, but he'll drape himself in flags and bibles and rhetoric for the optics alone to dupe the rubes of the GOP and whomever will take the bait. In a way, he is the exact embodiment of the GOP base - the ones who claim to be "christian", who go to church on Sunday just to be seen going to church, yet cannot practice what is preached to them because they don't truly believe it. I've lived among these people both in the deep south and in Utah. Strange how it's the regions that claim to be the most "christian" - they are the worst kind of hypocrites. I don't and never have had to rely on "the media" to tell me who Trump is; we've all been watching the Trump ****-show for over 40 years. His morals boil down to what is best for him, and to hell with anything else. He's going to make the next 6 weeks absolute chaos, and he's going to burn everything down that he can on the way. All you Trumpists - not "conservatives", not "Republicans", but Trumpists - here and everywhere, can right go **** yourselves in every hole available. I truly hope you reap what you have sown and your legacy burns in infamy for generations to come.

Too harsh? Yeah, eat a dick - I don't care.
Unfortunately the chaos will be much longer than just 6 weeks. He’ll probably lose, dispute the election, and then remain a huge figure in the national conversation as he unleashes a new media conglomerate-monster that thumps alongside all his pending legal battles—sowing division first and foremost. Reality TV at its apogee. And the conglomerate will endure afterwards, of course. And Don Jr is already ascending to grab the reigns of such an enterprise.

Our society was already deep into a 40-year cycle of institutional death and corruption. (A cycle that was exacerbating and feeding back into much longer and deeper cycles of corruption, of course). There’s absolutely no reason to think we can heal from a Trump-sized attack quickly or easily.

We can only take one step at a time and hope to limit the losses. Obviously Trump has to go. That’s a good first step.
 
True enough. He's a stain that's going to take a generation to scrape out of society's carpet - but like any stain, it's ghost will remain. He needs to go and it needs to be a landslide to purge him and his enablers from government. This country needs a reconstruction that makes the post civil war south look like Disney World.
 
Damn snowflake I simply said that new stuff comes out about trump almost daily (true) and that I wouldn't be surprised by anything that Trump would do (also true)

Buck up camper. Life is good

Btw, I have always hated trump every bit as much as the "usual haters" you speak of. This isn't a new condition for me. I have hated him since before he became president. A lot of Trumpers probably did as well.

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Yeah, I liked the old fish better for sure.
 
Yeah, no, that's not how that works.

"At a campaign rally in Minden, Nev., on Saturday night, Trump revived the idea of serving more than two terms in office, telling supporters that he’s “entitled” to more time as president because of the way he has been treated over the past four years.
“Fifty-two days from now, we’re going to win Nevada, and we’re going to win four more years in the White House,” Trump said to cheers from the crowd at the Minden-Tahoe Airport. “And then, after that, we’ll negotiate, right? Because we’re probably — based on the way we were treated — we’re probably entitled to another four after that.” "
 
Yeah, I liked the old fish better for sure.
You’re really struggling with priorities and interpretations. The world has plenty of important things going on right now. One poster on JFC, though..... dontyaknow.

And if you’d honestly say that you prefer a version of someone who has a less keenly sharpened opinion about something that MATTERS, well then I guess we can see even more clearly where your head is at.
 
Mafioso defending the Don, duh. Wonder how many would testify to this under oath? Lying to the press is normal operating procedure for these cult members and it goes without saying that they have zero credibility,
Why did you quote me? I asked a simple question and your answer had nothing to do with anything besides you being your usual bigot. Bloody hell dude.

Edit: just read the last page or two. You dudes cry a lot about some really pointless **** that has no bearing on anything in life. When he wins again you honestly might want to finf a psychiatrist. Your obsession is not healthy.
 
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Why did you quote me? I asked a simple question and your answer had nothing to do with anything besides you being your usual bigot. Bloody hell dude.

Edit: just read the last page or two. You dudes cry a lot about some really pointless **** that has no bearing on anything in life. When he wins again you honestly might want to finf a psychiatrist. Your obsession is not healthy.

I don't think he's going to win again personally. Nobody knows for sure, it's why we'll play the election game, but the path of undecideds is quite different this time.

Polling from 2016 was pretty clear that 15% - 20% of the population was undecided. That number is in the single digits now so a lot of the cake is baked, just a question of who actually turns out to vote.
 
I don't think he's going to win again personally. Nobody knows for sure, it's why we'll play the election game, but the path of undecideds is quite different this time.

Polling from 2016 was pretty clear that 15% - 20% of the population was undecided. That number is in the single digits now so a lot of the cake is baked, just a question of who actually turns out to vote.
And in 2016 confidence was VERY high that Hillary would win, so many people who didn't care for her but would have likely voted for her over Trump stayed home. They didn't think Trump had a chance.

This time around I think you'll see significant voter turnout, probably on both sides. That's not good news for Trump.
 
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