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Jazz are Setting Up a Tank

A three team scenario where KD gets to Phoenix… Donovan gets to Miami… Herro gets to Brooklyn is something I could see happening. We get Miami picks and a couple Phoenix picks… Nets get Bridges, Johnson, and Herro and picks from Phoenix…
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
A three team scenario where KD gets to Phoenix… Donovan gets to Miami… Herro gets to Brooklyn is something I could see happening. We get Miami picks and a couple Phoenix picks… Nets get Bridges, Johnson, and Herro and picks from Phoenix…
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If we are tanking we don’t want Miami or Phoenix’s picks. Picks at the end of the first round do nothing for a rebuild
 
Cool Runnings said:
If we are tanking we don’t want Miami or Phoenix’s picks. Picks at the end of the first round do nothing for a rebuild
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They make you immediately very bad if that’s most of what you’re getting back for franchise cornerstones. So they do that for the rebuild.

I’m not about that “haul” either but unprotected Phoenix picks are much more valuable than Heat ones in my mind.

I’m still about trading Don to the Knicks 1000%.
 
Cool Runnings said:
If we are tanking we don’t want Miami or Phoenix’s picks. Picks at the end of the first round do nothing for a rebuild
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Exactly. That's why a tank is so incredibly unlikely.

If we were trading Donovan Mitchell, it would have been for the expirings, 4 2023 1st rounders and other future picks NY had. Since they had that load of assets, they have traded the expirings, a ton of 2nd rounders and some of the 1st round assets. Plus, he doesn't seem like a natural fit next to Brunson anyway. We could have traded Don for Kemba, Burks and Derrick Rose and like 7 1sts round picks.

Miami would send Herro who is a #3 and picks that aren't great.

I don't think Don is going anywhere. If he does, it wouldn't be for a tank.
 
Cool Runnings said:
If we are tanking we don’t want Miami or Phoenix’s picks. Picks at the end of the first round do nothing for a rebuild
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Sure its not ideal, but picks are picks. The tank is going to be powered by who the Jazz draft by their own ability to suck then they can use the picks they can get in trades that arent as good to roster build and make moves.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Sure its not ideal, but picks are picks. The tank is going to be powered by who the Jazz draft by their own ability to suck then they can use the picks they can get in trades that arent as good to roster build and make moves.
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Go listen to the hoop collective pod… they indicated it might be happening.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Bruh I've been predicting this for the last several months
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I've been as pessimistic about this team as anybody since February but moving Royce alone upgraded this team exponentially so I have a little hope. Especially since we have a little wiggle cap room.
 
I honestly think the Spurs deciding to trade Murray and tank, as well as KD and Kyrie seemingly heading West, has probably convinced Smith/Aigne to pursue this option harder. Not that they wouldnt otherwise, but those things are making it an easier choice.
 
Tank is really the only way forward, IMO. It’s a certainty this roster won’t win so why delay the inevitable? The ASG? No chance.

My vote is take as many FRPs + as much crap as you can for Rudy and Donovan. NYK would be ideal given the near-term proximity of using a number of their picks (we use them next year or trade them for future, minimally protected picks). I personally won’t fret much about how valuable we think Team X’s pick in 2027 will be; that’s an eternity away.

IMO, the more important piece is that we ourselves suck this upcoming season and give our own pick a real shot at top 3-4 next draft.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The victory lap I do on the graves of my haters when we trade Donovan will probably get me a 6 month ban.
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Maybe combine your victory with the absolute failure that's known as your lovely Conley trade and act like a normal, class-having human being.
 
LoPo said:
Maybe combine your victory with the absolute failure that's known as your lovely Conley trade and act like a normal, class-having human being.
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Would a normal class having human being still be this caught up on the trade that made us an elite offensive team?
 
And lol at the dude telling everyone how crazy and wrong we where all year about the Mitchell smoke being like "have class if he's traded"
 
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