12 killed during mas shooting including police officer who had a gun in California bar.

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  1. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    There always was question mark over that notion to anyone with half a brain. Not many people are battle trained shooters. Some random dude with a gun is usually going to just get himself killed when trying to stop a shooter, or worse and they will hit some innocent people accidentally.
     

  2. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Nothing would have stopped it short of the dude never being able to get a gun in the first place.
     
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  3. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Good post.
     
  4. ONE LOVE

    ONE LOVE #Baby_Talk Staff Member

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    I'm starting it's just an excuse for gun owners to keep their guns.
     
  5. idestroyedthetoilet

    idestroyedthetoilet Well-Known Member

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    2nd page in and our resident race baiters havent fired up their race war yet? Has this place gone sane?
     
  6. idestroyedthetoilet

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  7. MVP

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    eeeewhh.... why would you ever go to McDonalds?
     
  8. RandyForRubio

    RandyForRubio Well-Known Member

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    He bought the gun legally in California, FYI.
     
  9. DutchJazzer

    DutchJazzer Well-Known Member

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    yawn! still grandstanding on the graves of these people, to strip innocent people of their right to self defense.

    WHAT'S NEW?
     
  10. Eenie-Meenie

    Eenie-Meenie Well-Known Member

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    Yes, people like you, DJ, need a gun to protect themselves. Hiding behind the law to sanction your hostility. In a good equable society where everyone contributed to each other's welfare and was considerate of it, we wouldn't need guns.
     
  11. Rubashov

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    84 returned servicemen killed themselves last year which is more men than we lost in Iraq and Afghanistan more needs to be done for veterans and their mental health problems. We take healthy young men and women send them off to kill for their society and then discard them when they come home broken. Its a disgrace.



    I'm glad this bastard didn't have access to firearms or yesterday would have been worse for everybody involved.
     
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  12. LogGrad98

    LogGrad98 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Dealing with the mental health issue is another option.
     
  13. LogGrad98

    LogGrad98 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    For this

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  14. MVP

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    Looks gross like everything on MC menu:(. Barf.
     
  15. Rubashov

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    The victim's family has been offered a state funeral, this is how we roll in Melbourne. My cousin actually knew Sisto pretty well, its a shame.

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/...-remembers-beautiful-man-20181112-p50fko.html
     
  16. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Kinda go hand in hand i think. I said him not being able to buy a gun may have prevented this. You say dealing with mental health. We could easily say that people with mental health issues shouldnt be able to buy a gun.
     
  17. str8line

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    Seems like a no brainer that more stringent background checks would be rushed through Congress. I bet the police officer's family and coworkers would support that. Republicans don't want to give an inch; they have more and more blood on their hands.
     
  18. Rubashov

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    Whats a mental health problem? Where do you set the standard? Admission to a facility? What if its a voluntary admission? What about people who can pay for treatment privately? Does everybody who gets treated privately for a mental health problem have to be registered on a database? Will this not discourage people from seeking treatment? In a country with as many guns as the US do you think it would be that hard for someone with a mental health illness to buy one?

    How can you have any faith in your country taking any sensible sense steps to sort out your gun problem?
     
  19. str8line

    str8line Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Yeah, it's tricky. Yes, there should be a database... for criminals, people under restraining orders and those with documented mental health issues. It's not a perfect solution at all, and tough to implement, but it's a half-step in the right direction.

    If it were up to me I would ban all handguns and assault weapons. Hunting weapons would be allowed, but purchasing one would require a background check. You want to shoot a handgun, get a pellet gun. At this point I think public safety should outweigh gun rights. Our fascination with guns is asinine.
     
  20. Alfalfa

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    We (gun manufacturers) will never let them take our freedom (bags of money)!
     

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