2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

[Handlogten's Heros]

Did I blame New Orleans at all? Read my post. I'm pissed off at LA, AD and Boston.

None of this crap should have come out until the summer. If Klutch or Paul or whoever wanted to demand AD get traded AND they knew Boston was a frontrunner, why waste everybody's time right now? If you suspect New Orleans is behind this, they could still get the mega offer from LA in the summer. I don't think NOLA is behind this at all.

The small market teams like Utah suffer because of stuff like this. Right when trade deadline communication was about to open up, a massive monkey wrench got thrown into every conversation because AD might or might not be dealt. And that means Mirotic might or might not be dealt. And Randle. And Jrue. Etc.

It's all just unnecessary if the whole goal was to wait until summer. I'm tired of a few franchises pulling the strings for so many.

This likely isn’t holding our trade market up. Nothing happens until the day of the deadline. Conley, porter and others will move or not move regardless. Boston LA and NY may not do anything but other teams ain’t waiting on AD... communication is always happening.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Per Woj:

“The message that’s been given out to teams is, ‘Hey if you want to make an offer go ahead, we’ll put it up on our board.’ But New Orleans is really focused on the long play here with these trade talks with Anthony Davis. The trade deadline is obviously next Thursday [February 7]. It is very unlikely that they’re going to be engaged seriously enough with anybody to do a trade by then.”

Honestly, this kind of pisses me off. The Lakers, Celtics and AD are pretty much holding the rest of the league hostage right now. Both franchises should lose draft picks for this garbage because everybody knows they are jockeying for AD behind the scenes. The entire NBA landscape, even through the playoffs, will be talked about with an asterisk. "Great win by Utah tonight, but where is AD going to go?"

If this AD thing gets drawn out past the deadline, I personally, as an NBA fan, will be pissed. Screw all three parties (AD, LA and Boston).

Lmao. Of course this pisses you off.

Did I blame New Orleans at all? Read my post. I'm pissed off at LA, AD and Boston.

Wait? What did LA and Boston do to piss you off? And AD has done what many nba players have done before him.

 

[LoPo]

This likely isn’t holding our trade market up. Nothing happens until the day of the deadline. Conley, porter and others will move or not move regardless. Boston LA and NY may not do anything but other teams ain’t waiting on AD... communication is always happening.

Of course some of the same situations still exist, but taking New Orleans out of the situation because of uncertainty really messes up the landscape.

A week ago, NOLA was one of the strongest and most willing buyers. Now, we don't know where they sit. That could work out in our favor, but for as much research and planning that goes into these moves, having a team like NOLA in no man's land really alters the landscape potentially.

 

[LoPo]

Lmao. Of course this pisses you off.



Wait? What did LA and Boston do to piss you off? And AD has done what many nba players have done before him.

But to answer your question. LA and Boston have been violating the essence of league tampering rules for over a year now over AD. If you don't think LA/LeBron are partly to blame for this Klutch sports ultimatum to NOLA, you need to stop posting and start reading.

Sure players have said they want to be traded to their own organizations, but what happened earlier this week is pretty unprecedented. An agent sent a formal message to the media telling everybody that AD doesn't want to stay and actually wants to be traded. That is so much different than Paul George telling the Pacers and then the Pacers leaking that PG wants out. NOLA got publicly punched in the gut by a player and his agent. And they feel entitled to do that because LA and Boston have been completely violating the Pelicans left and right.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Per Woj:

“The message that’s been given out to teams is, ‘Hey if you want to make an offer go ahead, we’ll put it up on our board.’ But New Orleans is really focused on the long play here with these trade talks with Anthony Davis. The trade deadline is obviously next Thursday [February 7]. It is very unlikely that they’re going to be engaged seriously enough with anybody to do a trade by then.”

Honestly, this kind of pisses me off. The Lakers, Celtics and AD are pretty much holding the rest of the league hostage right now. Both franchises should lose draft picks for this garbage because everybody knows they are jockeying for AD behind the scenes. The entire NBA landscape, even through the playoffs, will be talked about with an asterisk. "Great win by Utah tonight, but where is AD going to go?"

If this AD thing gets drawn out past the deadline, I personally, as an NBA fan, will be pissed. Screw all three parties (AD, LA and Boston).

Cry about it

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Did I blame New Orleans at all? Read my post. I'm pissed off at LA, AD and Boston.

None of this crap should have come out until the summer. If Klutch or Paul or whoever wanted to demand AD get traded AND they knew Boston was a frontrunner, why waste everybody's time right now? If you suspect New Orleans is behind this, they could still get the mega offer from LA in the summer. I don't think NOLA is behind this at all.

The small market teams like Utah suffer because of stuff like this. Right when trade deadline communication was about to open up, a massive monkey wrench got thrown into every conversation because AD might or might not be dealt. And that means Mirotic might or might not be dealt. And Randle. And Jrue. Etc.

It's all just unnecessary if the whole goal was to wait until summer. I'm tired of a few franchises pulling the strings for so many.

Just a reminder people will complain no matter what.

Hayward played his contract and left. People complained.

AD gives his team a notice so they can trade him. People are complaining.

Which way you want it? Players got freedom when they become a UFA.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The Pelicans made a ton of ****** moves. I don't know why anyone would feel bad for that organization. This isn't a small vs big market issue in my eyes, its a ****** organization vs big market issue.

 

[LoPo]

I'm going to leave NOLA alone for a minute.

What about this idea:

Dante Exum
for
Terrence Ross and a 2nd rounder

Why for Orlando: They are desperately seeking for better PG options. They might be in the running for Fultz, DSJ or Rozier, but Exum represents a much cheaper and/or less risky option than those 3. Ross is expiring so they might just lose him for nothing this summer. Since Orlando might pay to bring back Vucevic, getting a potential starting PG for under $10 is worth the risk. Orlando has 3 2nd round picks this year so giving one up isn't a huge deal.

Why for Utah: Exum gets mixed results from the Jazz fan base. I personally still have faith he can become good, but we don't have time right now to hope he gets good. With Mitchell learning more and more how to run the offense as our PG, the long term need for Exum might becoming less and less. Ross is a lights out shooter who can help us this year. He could even be a great fit for down the road but if he doesn't fit or leaves, we have more money this summer.

 

[MVP]

I'm going to leave NOLA alone for a minute.

What about this idea:

Dante Exum
for
Terrence Ross and a 2nd rounder

Why for Orlando: They are desperately seeking for better PG options. They might be in the running for Fultz, DSJ or Rozier, but Exum represents a much cheaper and/or less risky option than those 3. Ross is expiring so they might just lose him for nothing this summer. Since Orlando might pay to bring back Vucevic, getting a potential starting PG for under $10 is worth the risk. Orlando has 3 2nd round picks this year so giving one up isn't a huge deal.

Why for Utah: Exum gets mixed results from the Jazz fan base. I personally still have faith he can become good, but we don't have time right now to hope he gets good. With Mitchell learning more and more how to run the offense as our PG, the long term need for Exum might becoming less and less. Ross is a lights out shooter who can help us this year. He could even be a great fit for down the road but if he doesn't fit or leaves, we have more money this summer.

Orlando had a chance to draft Exum but since he completely disappointed them in workup before draft they drafted Gordon instead. I doubt whatever Exum showed in his 4 years in NBA made them change their mind about him.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Orlando had a chance to draft Exum but since he completely disappointed them in workup before draft they drafted Gordon instead. I doubt whatever Exum showed in his 4 years in NBA made them change their mind about him.

Different management

 

[LoPo]

I don't know why anyone would feel bad for that organization. This isn't a small vs big market issue in my eyes, its a ****** organization vs big market issue.

You feel bad for the small market Pelicans because Boston and LA along with their media have been pushing this AD narrative for years with no harsh enough penalties to keep them from tampering.

Just wait - in the next 5 years some of those big teams might start coming after Donovan. If we continue to be a 2nd round doormat, it will be awful. And are you gonna sit there and blame DL or are you going to be mad at guys like Magic Johnson and Danny Ainge who are tampering constantly?

Also, the Pelicans didn't make all bad moves. They got Jrue and made him great. They traded for Cousins and made him an all star starter. They traded for Mirotic who fit great before injuries (while dumping Asik). They revived Rondo. They signed Randle to a great deal. Injuries have screwed NOLA much more than the front office. AD can't stay healthy or win. Might not all be on the front office.

 

[MVP]

Different management

So there is hope they got more stupid